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# 00191 :  progressive elumination
Bible is perfect , if anything add to the Bible it is sin. But elumination from the Bible is still going on ..... For Eg. After the perioud of Apostelic fathers church enterd in to the dark ages. In the 14 ,15 centuries the strting of protestent churches. The hero of reformation Mrtin Luther thought, if any body think out of fully immersed baptism ,he should killed, at a time he celibrated some festivals in cathalic churches . Many Baptist peopled killed by Lutherens that days.Slowly the the truth succeeded. Baptist Church became the fundamentalists in Doctine about Church and all. As the revelation for the Bible is progressive as the elumination from the Bible is also progressive. Then Darvy came with differnt Dispensation ,begining of Brethren Churches . So what next, can we belive Elumination from the Bible is complete. If anybody come with new elumination can Bretheren people accept ? I am sure new elumination is in the Bible . we should accept it.
Post by : ajayjameson  View Profile    since : 28 Jan 2008


Reply by : keralabrethren1   View Profile   Since : 28 Jan 2008 3:22:10 AM Close
Dear ajayjameson,

What do you mean by elumination? Please make clear.

Please see the words of Gamaliel:

Act 5:38-39: "And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought: But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God."

We should be open to the Word of God. It should come out of the Text, not out of somebody's feelings or oracles.

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Reply by : ajayjameson   View Profile   Since : 28 Jan 2008 3:44:28 AM Close
Elumination : More lighting's in each word of God
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Reply by : sambudhanoor   View Profile   Since : 28 Jan 2008 7:01:45 AM Close
It is not elumination but illumination.

Illumination = enlightenment: intellectual or spiritual enlightenment

Illumination should be from the Word of God.

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Reply by : johnmiller   View Profile   Since : 28 Jan 2008 2:21:49 PM Close
Dear brother Jameson (Have I got that right?),

There are two sides, if I may describe it thus, to your remarks. Firstly, the meaning of God's word has never varied from the time it was inspired by the Holy Spirit. Its light was, is and always will be constant and brilliant.

However, our understanding of it and our appreciation of its application to our lives and circumstances are ongoing and developing experiences. In this regard its light shines into our lives with a continuing and increasing brightness if our communion with Divine Persons is maintained.

Jesus said, "I am the Light of the world." Our enjoyment of that wonderful truth and the blessing we can derive from it is something that the Holy Spirit of God would surely nurture and expand in our experience of discipleship.

Yours in Christ,

John

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Reply by : ajayjameson   View Profile   Since : 28 Jan 2008 3:43:44 PM Close
Illumination is in the sence of further steps to go ahead with doctrine. can we think that Brethren Church got the full illumination about doctrine.
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Reply by : keralabrethren1   View Profile   Since : 29 Jan 2008 7:21:55 AM Close
Dear Ajay,

What made you think in this way about the brethren church?

Who will answer for Brethren Church?

If everything is illuminated, no need to study or read the Word of God and hence the participation in this forum!!

Search the Scriptures daily and see what is written in it and how you read it, that is important. You will be illuminated.

There is no doctrine for the brethren church, other than the written Word of God, to the best of my knowledge.

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Reply by : ajayjameson   View Profile   Since : 29 Jan 2008 11:28:22 AM Close
My thought is this , if somebody say from Bible about the configaration of the doctrine like the 'Leadership', how we are accepting it ?
For Example, the folks deciding their shepperd, that is appointment of Elders in the Churrch ,If somebody say that according to the Bible existing pattern of leadership is wrong in our church and again they say that the right pattern is like the appointments are held by Missionary (person who are behind for the foundation of local Church) is capable to decide the elder from Acts 14.21 -23.If one evangelist ask or prove like this what will be our answer ?
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Reply by : keralabrethren1   View Profile   Since : 30 Jan 2008 12:02:53 AM Close
Dear Ajay,

There is no point in discussing a hypothetical question or situation. I think you have something in mind about a particular church or an evangelist!! Please do not generalise it.

There are specific directions and precedences in the Acts and Epistles regarding appointment of elders, whatever comes beyond this is unscrpitural, immaterial whoever support it.

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Reply by : ajayjameson   View Profile   Since : 30 Jan 2008 8:32:53 AM Close
it is the problem of acceptency . will u please prove.
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Reply by : keralabrethren1   View Profile   Since : 2 Feb 2008 12:39:55 AM Close
What to prove?
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Reply by : ajayjameson   View Profile   Since : 6 Feb 2008 4:26:37 AM Close
I am sorry about to wrote elumination in place of illumination.
Appointment of Elders by the approval of belivers is a trditional belief among us. Nobody yet to try what the Bible saying, Commandment of Paul is not to the church it for the servant of God Thimothy,I Thimothy 3.1-13.
If we decide our elders in the church according to the will of congregation it is politics and democracy.
Otherwise the congregation is just admitting the elders they are invisible eldres.
Commandment of Paul to Timothy and Titus is to Appoint Elders and decons.
Paul himself did the same job, in Acts 14 14-23
appointed elders.
Among us we are using the criterias are something like natural.
Many problems are arising by this non appointed elders , showing muzzles each other, not admitting each other.
if any elder might have sinned nobody there to question,if an elder question ," who are you to question me ?"
I am sure we should change our pattern about the doctrine atleast in yhe subject of "Biblical Leadership".
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