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# 00034 :  Birth Control
Should believers adopt birth control policies since childrens are blessings from God.
Post by : Mon  View Profile    since : 12 Nov 2002


Reply by :   View Profile   Since : 12 Nov 2002 12:08:35 PM Close
Sickness and disease is a test from God, often, should we not take medicine?

Financial burdens because of death or accident can also be a test, should we not buy insurance?

I think birth control falls in this category. What I mean is that it is available as a resource, so why not use it.

However, I have no scriptures to back me up. If someone can show me scripturally why we shouldn't use it, then I will change.

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Reply by : tommy   View Profile   Since : 19 Nov 2002 11:46:22 PM Close
Birth control among the beleivers in the new genenration widens because of their fear in mind that they would not be able to manage the family incase they have many children.

We should remember the past days our grand parents lived in. Even though they were in poor financial condition with children many (average 6 to 10 in number), their driving force was FAITH in God. God fulfilled their needs in abundance.

I think we should learn a lesson from them about their faith, Mon.

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Reply by : jp   View Profile   Since : 19 Dec 2002 11:43:33 PM Close
in response to the comment of our grandparents...they didnt have birth control back in the days else i'm sure it would've definitely been used!
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Reply by :   View Profile   Since : 13 Jan 2003 6:38:53 AM Close
jp many us those as being fifth & sixth child of the family would then not be existing
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Reply by : jim   View Profile   Since : 14 Jan 2003 8:14:37 AM Close
The issue is not whether our grandparents would have used it if it were around, but if it's sinful to use it. The nameless stranger above starts us off, but falls short without scripture.
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Reply by : Sincy_Varghese   View Profile   Since : 14 Jan 2003 3:03:00 PM Close
I think there is nothing in the scripture to deny the use of birth control, but in the Scripture children are considered a blessing. And when God says 'Be fruitful and multiply' it is spoken along with the other blessings, not as a command. I do not think anyone will refuse blessings , but if the husband and wife are convinced about the number of children they want and their conscience does not judge them, then I think there is nothing sinful in birth contgrol.
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Reply by : Tom   View Profile   Since : 18 Feb 2003 7:44:08 AM Close
Some methods are ok, i mean, not sinful. Others are.
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Reply by :   View Profile   Since : 26 Feb 2003 6:51:18 PM Close
I have just discovered some startling things. It seems that the birth control pill can cause abortions. Please consider. There are 3 ways the pill prevents a pregnancy:

1. Prevents the egg from descending.
2. Prevents the sperm from reaching the egg.
3. If 1 or 2 fail then prevents the fertilized egg from attaching to the uterus.

If this risk is true, then there is a chance that we may be killing unborn by taking the pill. Realistically the chance is small, but any chance is too much.

For more information, read the following website:

http://www.epm.org/bcpill1.html

It is very fair and balanced examination.

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Reply by :   View Profile   Since : 22 Apr 2003 3:13:07 AM Close
Christians are not allowed to Control the birth of children. The Bible is totally against it.

God asked the Man to multiply and replenish the earth. If Children are Gift of God, how can we reject the Gift given by God?

1 Timothy 5:14
14 So I think it is better for these younger widows to marry again and have children and take care of their own homes; then no one will be able to say anything against them.
1Thim 5:14, (malayalam translation is better)encourages young women to have "Puthra Sambathu" means many children.

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Reply by : nelnob   View Profile   Since : 1 Nov 2004 6:29:16 AM Close
During ancient days our forefathers used to walk days to reach a prayer meeting or worship meeting, Can nowadays any of our brethren walk 5 km, we expect a vehicle to make us reach the assembly. Things have changed a lot. So be innocent as a dove and clever as a serpent. Before any decision by ourselves submit our confusions to our Lord Almighty who hears and gives reply to sort our confusions. .
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Reply by : saljan   View Profile   Since : 24 Nov 2004 5:24:14 AM Close
If the Lord has given u enough space, time & money to bring up more children, go ahead brother. Let them also be engaged in King's work!!
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Reply by : drjcp   View Profile   Since : 26 Nov 2004 7:38:37 AM Close
Friends,

I am no longer a "young" person. But I do wish to speak a few things on this things due to my heavy involvement with medicine and medical field. [I am an evangelist, and also a lisences physician in the Alternative Medicine]. But since I am outside your age group, I will post only if at least two of you would want me to. And that also only because compared to many of you I am directly involved in medical ethics.

I await your response. If you say "no" I shall have no problem, and thus my inquiry

Greetings

Johnson C. Philip
www.Bible4u.Info

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Reply by : saljan   View Profile   Since : 27 Nov 2004 3:19:36 AM Close
Dear DrJCP,
I wish to hear from you on the subject.
Love, Saljan
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Reply by : phebeanu   View Profile   Since : 29 Nov 2004 1:10:49 AM Close
even me sir!
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Reply by : bookwormphil   View Profile   Since : 4 Dec 2004 1:51:17 AM Close
HI guys im a young medico i would like to examine the medico-ethical aspects of the issue.

1..there are many kinds of "pills"
not all of them or not many of tyem act by the actions that have been suggested by the unknown
author.

2.. the proper way of finding scientific material is notbon a religious site .,check out the numerous research papres and journals that can be found on the net and in standard libraries and then come to conclusions.

3..as far as i know the only kind of pills that can prevent the fertillized egg to implant in the uterus is the "morning after pill" which is not available in india and as far as i know , in the gulf.

4...there are many things that are called as gifts in the bible like a good nights sleep does that mean that we sleep all day long. we must refrain from using rhetoric as much as possible becauise rhetoric leads to nothing fruitful.

will write more later


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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 6 Dec 2004 8:54:37 AM Close
Dear bookwormphil,

You wrote, "The proper way of finding scientific material is notbon a religious site .,check out the numerous research papres and journals that can be found on the net and in standard libraries and then come to conclusions."

As a person who spent some years in the medical research field, especially in experimental design, let me ask you some questions. (Currently, I work in the quality management field as a consultant.)

What is your response to the VIOXX fiasco? This question is applicable, because almost all the references in libraries and internet favored VIOXX, till this summer. The manufacturer knew about its danger for about four years, but marketted it agrressively.

How can we be assured about the integritty of the experiments? Now some say that homosexuality is DNA related and produce some research reports in its support.

How do we know that the manufacturers of pills are not biassing the results or the reports? A survey of published articles in various jouranls are sufficient to establish this.

How do we know that the research principals have not manufactured data? It has come to light that Cyril Burt did this to establish his theory on IQ. Dr. Sumerlin of Sloan Kettering Institute falsified his data on knin grafting. He even produced a white mouse painted black with felt-tip pen to support his research.

These are only few questions I have.

Shalom malekim!!!

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Reply by : bookwormphil   View Profile   Since : 7 Dec 2004 2:48:51 AM Close
dear Dr. Gpk though your post is not relevent to the topic i will answer because of your position.

I want to make my stand clear. I do not claim in any way that science is infalliable or that it can be always trusted

You ahve pointed out rightly some of the times when the scietific world was takem for a ride.
but tell me if one did not ahve trust in science would one still not belive that the earth was flat or that the earth is tha center of the solar system or in many other miscnceptions that man had before the advent of emperical sciences?

do you propose that since there have been major blunders made by the people of science , we loose our trust in research and stop beliving in the papres and books and instead incerase our knowledge by reading papres written by religious authors who ofcourse have no vested intersts and will never falsify or modify the results of their research.

may i ask you sir whya are you still in science?

im sorry if i have sounded rash and difient . that is not my purpose , you as man who has scientific trainging should first look,at what i wrote and why i wrote it.

we dont need to come to right conclusions using wrong data.

please reply to the questions that have been raised in the forum is what i wrote factually wrong ? i would love to be corrected on the facts and principles that i post.

i would like to say again sir that my intention was not to malign christian research as i myself am involved in it but to bring into this discussion the method of science .

i hope you will consider replying to the main issue at hand

Phil

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 7 Dec 2004 9:05:59 AM Close
Dear bookwormphil,

I don't want to go off the track. But I wish to make a few comments, and after that I will be silent. If you wish to continue, we could do so in another thread.

First, it was scientists who made the 'flat earth and domed sky theory,' based on emperical data. It was some other scientists (Artistotle was the first) who questioned it and corrected it from emperical data and logical reasoning.

Second, It is not the data that brought wrong theories. But it was calculations that falsified the data.

Third, you asked me why I am still in science. Well 'science' is knowledge. I am still in 'science' or in knowledge, only because I am still alive. Some one said, "I think, therefore I am." I think it was Oliver Wendel Holmes. I say, "I am alive, therefore I am in science."

Fourth, sciecnce is nothing but progression of knowledge by successive approximation. Therefore, it is not final or truth at a given point in time.

Fifth, only the word of God is true as God is true. It is final for all things in a man's life. It is the only absolute knowledge that exists in this world.

If you are interested to continue, please start another thread. I do not want to deviate from your objective on this thread.

I apologize for the intrusion.

Shalom malekim!!!

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Reply by : bookwormphil   View Profile   Since : 7 Dec 2004 11:11:08 AM Close
Dr. GPK i will start a new thread for a short discussion.
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Reply by : charaka   View Profile   Since : 9 Dec 2004 2:35:16 AM Close
seems like no one is intersted in the actual discussion

factual error: noemal combined pills and progestrone only pills also can act by making the uterus unreceptive to the fertilized egg.

Dr. JCP seems to have forgotton abt us yougns.

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Reply by : drjcp   View Profile   Since : 19 Dec 2004 7:53:02 AM Close
I am very sorry, but I have not forgotten you. Got sort of involved in things that are closer to bread and butter than the sword and the shield!!

Am back and hope to beging posting. Just let me print and review all what you have written, and I will come back !!

love to all

Johnson C. Philip

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Reply by : drjcp   View Profile   Since : 29 Dec 2004 11:03:12 PM Close
I am sorry for taking time more than usual to respond. Bread and butter, and health and sickness, all took their own toll.

Coming to Birth-control, we whould begin with most important principles FIRST and get into applications after that.

Here is the most important principle:

"Once a sperm unites with an ovum, it is a human being. And no human should interfere with it or terminate its life."


All my future posts will be based on this premise.

Johnson C. Philip
www.BiblicalArcheology.Net

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Reply by : drjcp   View Profile   Since : 29 Dec 2004 11:17:39 PM Close
Elaboration of what I posted above: once a sperm unites with the ovum, the unicellular "entity" is identical in essence with the adult that that shall become. The difference is only in appearance and function, and not in essence.

Researches have also shown that human life begins at conecption, and that one is able to detect the signs of life at increasing earlier stages of the fetus as instruments and methods become increasingly sophisticated and sensitive.

Thus the deliberate destruction of a unicellular human being [zygote] is not permissible for humans to destroy the zygote or Embryo.

In India one is now able to detect life as early as the first month. However it is reported that signs of life can now be detected as early as a couple of days after concpetion.

Thus we shall not endorse anything that tampers with human existance or human life.

Johnson C. Philip

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Reply by : hhhd   View Profile   Since : 30 Dec 2004 5:31:25 PM Close
Dr.JCP,
From your posts I understand that you are talking about the Morning After pill.
How about contraceptives that prevent the meeting of the ovum and the sperm? I am of the strong conviction that contraception methods that follow this principle is perfectly alright. So I believe that condoms, birth control pills,IUDs, patches, etc are OK.
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Reply by : drjcp   View Profile   Since : 30 Dec 2004 10:53:54 PM Close
My dear hhhd,

you have misread me. I did not start talking about any device as such. Just established a boundary, that is all.

In the next post we will establish one more principle, and then only we will come to the contraceptive devices part.

love

Johnson C. Philip
www.ApologeticsCourses.Com

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Reply by : drjcp   View Profile   Since : 4 Jan 2005 10:41:42 AM Close
Sorry, I on the move so delayed postings.

A second principle to remember is that though a zygote or embryo is human life, a sperm or ovum in itself is not human life.

Thus the destruction of sperms or ova cannot be placed on the level of destruction of the embryo.

with the two principles I posted, we will launch into a discussion of contraception and contraceptives.

JCP

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Reply by : drjcp   View Profile   Since : 10 Jan 2005 11:44:51 AM Close
Based upon the principles mentioned above, we can come to the following conclusions:

1. There is nothing wrong with the aptly named "barrier methods".

2. This includes barrier in men [vasectomy], in women [tubectomy] or other barrier methods used at the time of cohabitation.

3. At the same time, all methods that work "after" the sperm and ovum unite are wrong.

4. Methods about which one is not sure [contraceptives about which a clear picture of how they work has not emerged] are not to be used by belivers.

I hope the answer is specific enough to answer the original queries.

Johnson C. Philip
www.ApologeticsCourses.Com

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Reply by : agape   View Profile   Since : 16 Mar 2005 7:26:20 PM Close
Hi JCP,

I dont know if I had asked you but I heard about this about you that you had Hipnotised some one in one of the youth camp, may be long back.....

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Reply by : drjcp   View Profile   Since : 27 Mar 2005 2:07:29 PM Close
Dear Agape

sorry for the delay in posting. I had unfortunately ignored the youth forum for two weeks. [I am no longer very young, so come to this section only when there is a need].

No, you have never asked this question before, to the best of my knowldge.

About Hypnotism I have alwasys taken a strong stand that it is dangerous to tamper with the human mind and psyche at the semi-conscious level, and I have strongly opposed believers subjecting themeslves to Hypnotism or Mesmerism. So I have "clinically" never hypnotized anyone so far, nor have i mastered the art of hypnotism. Whoever said this to you said it wrong.

In life I follow what is called the "Open Policiy". According to it, if anyone shows any sinful activity in my life, I openly admit it and make the necessary restitution. So if anyone has any evidence about me hypnotizing anyone, do encourage them to apporach me.

However, if any of my messages directed at young people [who continue to be my target audiance] has created a spell upon them, placed a charm upon them, or galvanized them, or mesmerized them into listening intently, I cannot help it !!!!


lots of love agape
And pardon me for the delayed posting of the reply

Johnson C. Philip

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Reply by : drjcp   View Profile   Since : 28 Mar 2005 5:36:31 AM Close
Dear VargheseP

thank you very much for your attack on my character here in these columns, which have no relation with the subject being discussed here. Thank you for the attack on my character and learning as well. I will not respond to that.

As to the question posed by you, kindly note that my answers are in response to what young people were asking, and that also specifically to me. Obviously, I did not enter into any subject they did not ask. So do not accuse me for not answering what they have not asked me.

Coming to your question to me, sir, about abstinance, I am not going to answer. It is obvious that after attacking my character first you are not going to accept my words. So I do not wish to cast any pearls here.

There are plenty of young people on this forum who know me, and who often wish to hear from me. They are honest, do not attack my character, and feel that I am a reliable source of information. I would prefer answering these honest souls rather than someone who begins with assassination and then sheds tears of inquiry.

Johnson C. Philip

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Reply by : charaka   View Profile   Since : 9 Apr 2005 2:33:52 AM Close
hello!!! mwhat kind of a post is that mr verghese thats a really mean and debase thing to have said against anyone

mr verghese the forum is about birth control i dont see how jcps attitude towards benny hinn or any one is relevent here

and your connection between the luxuries enjoyed by benny hinn and those who do not use abstinence is so wierd that i am led to think that you are the one with some vested intrests not him

jcps extreme right wing theology is offensive to at least some if not many but that should not lead to charecter assasinaton

stick to the thread and please dont reply to this one

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Reply by : bbg   View Profile   Since : 19 Jun 2005 5:48:10 AM Close
it better discuss how many kids we need. My suggestion is 3 kids is the best
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Reply by : lemuelraj   View Profile   Since : 22 Jun 2005 7:00:33 AM Close
"Happy is the man that hath his quiver FULL of them" (Ps 127:5).
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Reply by : jbdubai   View Profile   Since : 29 Jun 2005 2:58:36 AM Close
Dear All, let me add my conviction, in practical terms..
it is true that children are GOd's blessings.God is able to provide for them,But it also true that God has placed certain boundaries for us, like limitation of finance and other related resources. God has given us wisdom and intelectual capacity to discern/judge things. since children are Gods gift, it does'nt meant that we should keep on producing children every year and add the blessings. here we need to apply practical wisdom and remember the boundaries/limiations within which god has placed us.
regarding berth control methods, i belive there is nothing wrong is using it, and preventing the pregnancy if we are not wishing for that. but all methods that work "after" the sperm and ovum unite are wrong, because life starts from there and we dont have right to destroy it.
Hope my comments helps to clear things.
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Reply by : mom23   View Profile   Since : 23 Feb 2007 6:34:22 PM Close
I have a few questions on this ....
1. Most forms of birth-control for women which includes the pill/patch/IUD's all come with so many side-effects for the women ranging from "a greater chance of blood clots, stroke etc.,headaches, weight increase,nausea and also for some there are liver & gall bladder problems. These methods are not recommended for women with health problems like heart disease/B.P. probs/Cancer or are smokers.Long term effects of the pill are still in research. So, it is like all drugs with some "doozy" of a side effect...so why do we feel the need to still use it?
2. No form of contraceptive is a 100% effective...so can we truly rely on them?
3. Ps. 127 states that "blessed is a man that has a quiver full of them..." children i.e. Doesn't it mean that maybe God wants us to have more children?
4.There are a lot of families with no kids...and we know don't understand why, but we believe there is a purpose from God behind it. So doesn't the same apply vice versa too.When we say "let it be according to God's will"... by using birth control aren't we in a way removing it from God's hands/will and taking this into our own hands? Because if we have faith and believe that God knows us and knows our capacities/strengths and wouldn't give us a burden more than we can handle...why do we feel insecure to leave it totally on our heavenly father, on how many kids He chooses to bless a family with?
5. What really is our primary reason for opting for birth control? Motives that is? Is it truly for the glory of God or something else?
6.If we are called to be "seperate" from the world... why are we, in this, such an important aspect of God's plan for a family, adhering to the world's idea of how many kids a family needs to have?
I ask this because I too am equally confused on this subject and am still praying about what God's plan for my family is. But I would love to hear some other form of thought on why it is biblically right to use birth-control and why it isn't technically killing any zygotes etc.?
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Reply by : samv   View Profile   Since : 25 Feb 2007 7:34:24 PM Close
It's God who gives life. I believe that doing birth control is Satanic. So going against the will of God using Birth Control is Sin
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Reply by : boby1   View Profile   Since : 10 Mar 2007 2:39:29 AM Close
By using birth control methods, are we not yielding to the lust of the flesh?
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Reply by : jpdobcofjc   View Profile   Since : 12 Mar 2007 10:47:06 AM Close
I don't have the time right now to scroll through thus entire forum so I hope I'm not opening up a can of worms by asking this: what does everyone think of a vasectomy or tubal ligation as means of birth control?
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Reply by : samv   View Profile   Since : 23 Mar 2007 6:26:11 PM Close
What Johnson C Philip said is right. You don't have right to take a life. Because the when you are using a birth control pill, you are killing a human being,which is SIN!!!!!!!!!! !!!! I hope the person who posted the question anonymously has an answer by now. Go and get baptized and get in to a good Bible based church. May the Lord forgive you.

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Reply by : jpdobcofjc   View Profile   Since : 23 Mar 2007 11:12:10 PM Close
Those are strong words "samv." To everyone--what are your opinions on condom use as means of birth control?
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Reply by : samv   View Profile   Since : 25 Mar 2007 2:55:48 PM Close
Well. I think most of the brethren believers should know that use of condom as a birth control could cause other issues to the women. I am not a medical professional, but I am sharing this information from the knowledge I gained from others in medical field who are reliable doctors and even researchers in the pharmaceutical industry.
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Reply by : jpdobcofjc   View Profile   Since : 26 Mar 2007 11:23:39 PM Close
"samv"--I don't believe there are any studies out there stating that condom use causes any problems in women--I assume you are primarily referring to infection, and even this, at best, is minimum.
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Reply by : samv   View Profile   Since : 31 Mar 2007 6:20:05 AM Close
"I don't have the time right now to scroll through thus entire forum so I hope I'm not opening up a can of worms by asking this: what does everyone think of a vasectomy or tubal ligation as means of birth control? ".

Why you are so specific about all these? jpdobcofjc are you a born again believer? My answer to you will be based on this.

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Reply by : jpdobcofjc   View Profile   Since : 31 Mar 2007 9:46:57 PM Close
samv: yes, I am a born again believer.
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Reply by : jpdobcofjc   View Profile   Since : 1 Apr 2007 7:57:42 PM Close
samv: excuse me, what exactly do you mean by "don't sin again"?? I asked a question and the failure on your part to answer it leaves me to question as to whether or not you understood its meaning in the first place...my intentions are genuine; your's I am not sure about. Perhaps you should observe the plank in your own eye.
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Reply by : mom23   View Profile   Since : 6 Apr 2007 10:37:22 AM Close
I still don't seem to have recieved any answers to my questions and neither has "jpdobcofjc".
And dear brother "samv"...you do realize some of your statements are at best offensive. When a person asks a question, instead of trying to answer it, being offensive and questioning his spirituality is absolutely rude. This was a thread on birth control so lots of questions based on this will come up, which maybe you are not comfortable with. That's ok! But don't be offensive to the person asking a question. Just my 2 cents....
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Reply by : mom23   View Profile   Since : 6 Apr 2007 11:02:58 AM Close
jpdobcofjc: I think a part of your earlier question was answered by Bro.Johnson C.Phillip on his post dated 10 Jan.2005.

"Based upon the principles mentioned above, we can come to the following conclusions:

1. There is nothing wrong with the aptly named "barrier methods".

2. This includes barrier in men [vasectomy], in women [tubectomy] or other barrier methods used at the time of cohabitation.

3. At the same time, all methods that work "after" the sperm and ovum unite are wrong...."

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Reply by : jpdobcofjc   View Profile   Since : 7 Apr 2007 9:34:08 PM Close
"mom23": thanks for your responses (finally, an answer!)...God bless...
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Reply by : mom23   View Profile   Since : 11 Apr 2007 2:09:15 PM Close
jpdobcofjc: Welcome! I was not fully convinced with it though.....as I am not sure about the above answer of Mr.J.C.Phillip's, it didn't make complete sense to me....but hope someone answers my questions though!!
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Reply by : phfinney   View Profile   Since : 12 Apr 2007 1:41:27 PM Close
I fully agree with Dr.JCP's viewpoint, which is very biblical!

Dr.JCP, please continue to share your valuable insights on such critical issues!
May God Bless your Ministry!

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Reply by : sajant   View Profile   Since : 2 Oct 2007 1:02:12 PM Close
Dear All,

I'm new here. I just had gone thru the above postings and the conclusion. I personally had to disagree to the concusion wit due respect to all. My views are:

1. As many of you mentioned earlier, Children are the greatest gifts of God, our role is minimal in giving birth, but He controls it.
2. Any act prevents His Will is absolutely a SIN.
3. Having sex without any "barrier methods" WILL NOT cause pregnancy, unless the Lord wants to happen. We need to improve the Faith in God believe and experience it.

If our Faith in God is strong enough, we need not have worry about this kind of stuff. Remember, whether I have one kid or 10 kids, its not I who feed them, but the Lord. So, to me, all these concerns shows our lack of Faith in His Divine Protection and Plan for us.

The above opinion doesn't mean I'm a '100% true christian who follows the Word' very strictly. I'm a sinner, seeks for His Mercy to practise His Will. I apologise if my postings hurt anybody, though I view on the issue remain same.

God Bless, Sajan

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Reply by : mom23   View Profile   Since : 3 Oct 2007 10:42:41 AM Close
Bro. Sajan...
Welcome!
Believe me it wasn't concluded...I had a list of questions which still haven't been answered. I too, am on the same train of thought as you.
It requires faith, dear brother, and a need to look unto our Lord for the strength.
We call children a blessing...but then how does it stop being a blessing if we have more than 2 kids ???

As believers we are letting our secular world/secular education/social comfort dictate our lives and choices....not the scriptures...and that is the bottom line. You may paint whatever picture you want about cost of living/education/college/marriage etc.....but it is all based on looking better than the neighbour.
Would a child be completely deprived, if, for example, he doesn't attend the most prestigious school in the area or if he doesn't come to school in the latest car or if he isn't carrying the latest backpack or playing with an X-Box or a Wii ???

Any form of contraception is still not 100% effective and in a lot of women, some of them cause complications...so why do we still insist on them ?
And it is splitting hairs when we try to convince ourselves that there is nothing wrong with "barrier methods".....we are taking matters into our own hands on things, making a choice when and how it is convenient for us to recieve God's blessings, is it not?? Because there is lack of faith in His will and that is the bottom line.....

Judy.

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Reply by : sajant   View Profile   Since : 3 Oct 2007 1:10:12 PM Close
Well said Judy. Thanks for welcoming me to this community & for the kind words.

Now, coming to reality - I'm also a married guy, and facing the challenges mentioned above. Though, its not difficult to preach the Gospel, preaching it by one's life (which is more important) is not easy. Requesting prayers from all praying souls.

May be Love & Peace of our Lord be with us all.

Sajan

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Reply by : mom23   View Profile   Since : 3 Oct 2007 2:18:34 PM Close
Oh Yeah!
As a mother....it is very thought provoking!! My husband and I, always think and debate about this...basically that if you step out of the box and just examine the various reasons presented for using contraception...it all boils down to being so selfish and so present!! You raise a generation of individuals who believe that it is all about them and their needs...their present satisfaction i.e.
I wonder how many of us take some time to contemplate about the prospect of standing before the creator one day and telling Him, what was your role as a steward (a parent), in leading the souls He blessed you with to the Lord.

I think we fear...our own capacities as parents, what all we can provide them that won't invoke ridicule by our fellow men/friends...but makes us look successful...basically praise & acceptance by other's...coz being an anomoly can rock that boat!!
It is amazing...I have 3...and I hear all kinds of remarks, from my so called well wishers and family, of course!! I do not want to imagine about those families who have more !!

We love to trivialize the Lord's blessing with crude humor sometimes about the no.of children a couple should have that is socially acceptable.....but isn't this trivializing one of God's most precious and complex creations...a human being!!
A being so complex, that every breath it takes triggers so much wondrous happenings in it's body and mind...like an intricate perfectly tuned machine !!

I pray, daily for the strength to do only His will, to not let the ridicule hurt me coz I have my Lord, to know that at the end of the day, I need to look at my eternal life and not this transient one on this earth. It is a difficult prayer, but He has been strenghtening me step by step...I don't know what His plan form and my family is, but let it be revealed at His time...

A sister in Christ,
Judy.

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Reply by : sajant   View Profile   Since : 4 Oct 2007 7:32:36 AM Close
While you pray, I request you to pray for people facing similar challenges. Many are not convinced on the Truth. Some are convinced, but faces difficulties in living it due to various reasons. So, prayers are necessary - to help all to live up to His Holy Will.

God Bless, Sajan

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Reply by : mom23   View Profile   Since : 4 Oct 2007 8:50:56 AM Close
I could definitely do that...God bless!!
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