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Kumbanad Convention - Media Reports & Facts 
 
Following the conflicting reports and rumors spread about Kumbanad Brethren Assembly with respect to the ‘Convention’ in various publications, magazines and social media among the brethren, we thought it would be good to pen a few facts for the knowledge of whomsoever it may concern. Firstly, to introduce ourselves, we were born and brought up at Kumbanad, spiritually nurtured by the Kumbanad Brethren Assembly until we moved to different parts of the world in relation with our work. Though physically not residing in Kumbanad currently, we are closely associated with the assembly and following up on all the happenings there. Being well aware of the disheartening circumstances facing our fellow brethren in Kumbanad these days, we would like to present the facts related to these issues clearly. If by any circumstance, any detail is recorded incorrectly, kindly notify us. We will look into the matter and rectify the same if needed. We hope that all readers will take this letter in its face value and may the Lord’s name be glorified through this venture. We were keeping our fingers crossed so long and didn’t want to make this public show. Now that facts are being distorted and deflected from reality, we are forced to speak the truth in love. We will not be influenced when people try to trick us with lies so clever they sound like the truth. Instead, we will speak the truth in love, growing in every way more and more like Christ,…” Eph 4:14, 15

            As you know, Kumbanad Brethren Assembly had been established more than a century ago and has been maintaining its testimony for the past many years. Our forefathers who prayerfully decided to separate from the nominal Christian backgrounds, decided to gather separately for the honor and glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. Foreign missionaries like Noel family, Ms. Shutleef etc. came to this land and provided great assistance and support to the local assembly and also to the Kumbanad Community.  They set up schools, provided medical assistance and also provided all the needed guidance materially and spiritually.  As time progressed, the missionaries left India and handed over the properties to the Steward Association for maintaining these for the glory of the Lord’s name. One of the conditions that were mentioned in the title/deed transfer is that they have no right to sell the land. The local assembly at each place had the right to use the property for the glory of the Lord by keeping up its testimony. This was the situation which prevailed in Kumbanad till about 10-15 years back.

            At Kumbanad, the land includes Noel Memorial School, Bethany Bible School, Missionary’s Bungalow (later renamed as Noel guest house), Brethren Assembly Hall and the ground in front of the hall which was used to preach the gospel (for convention) for the past many years.  At a later stage, Brethren English Medium School and Assembly Mess Hall were constructed. Quite recently Steward Association office also has come up in the same premises. Assembly members were actively involved in the establishment of Brethren English Medium School and were physically, materially and financially involved in the construction of the building and the premises for the school. Also few years back, assembly members actively participated in the construction/renovation work of the Bethany Bible School at the same premises.  The Mess Hall that was constructed by the Assembly in the later 70's or early 80's, too called for renovation due to its dilapidated condition. Though the Assembly made the decision to renovate the same so that more people could use it and various spiritual gatherings could be conducted for His glory it didn’t materialize due to many reasons. A few years back, the assembly has requested the Steward Association of India (SAI) to allot some of the unused land adjacent to the mess hall which was then in the possession of Brethren English Medium School for the renovation and expansion of the mess hall.  After consulting the office-bearers of the Brethren English Medium School, measures were taken to facilitate the payment of Rs 5,00,000 by the Assembly to the School. Considering the fact that the land was given free of cost by the missionary, the Assembly declined to pay the sum directly to the school. But informed SAI that it did not consider it necessary to pay Rs. 5,00,000 but a lower amount of Rs. 3,00,000 could be paid to the SAI if the SAI so insists. SAI and the school declined the request stating that the school requires the above mentioned piece of land for future expansion. To make matters worse, in a few months’ time, the same land was given to KEM FUND to construct its office building. We refrain from entertaining any educated guesses to how such a transaction occurred! 

A year back, some anti-social elements made several damages to the assembly hall premises, toilets, broke several water pipes and also engaged in alcohol consumption along with immoral activities at the assembly premises during odd hours causing much distress to the believers. On account of several similar incidents, the elders of the assembly decided to protect the hall premises with proper fencing and gates to avoid trespassing.  The SAI with the help of convention committee members wrote several letters and verbally questioned this decision of the elders, mentioning that assembly has no right to protect its premises. The interesting reason put forth by SAI was that the compound and the area belongs to SAI and convention committee; therein demanding that the gates be removed.

The trouble for the assembly continues from then on. The organizations grew stronger and stronger with huge financial and political support led by the same people or their relatives or group members to hold the post of convener or secretary.

            However as a need of the hour, the oversight of the local assembly decided to carry on with the renovation work of the Mess Hall in the existing premise after it became evident that the adjacent land (including some part of assembly property) was given to KEMF by SAI for its office construction and was already in progress.  Once this renovation work of the mess hall started prayerfully on March 2013, Steward Association in India (SAI) and its Kerala auxiliary along with other so called Brethren organizational representatives approached various authorities (Local Panchayat, RDO, District Town Planner, District Collector, Kerala State Panchayat Directorate, local Police Station) with complaints and baseless allegations against the local assembly. Apart from these official complaints, these organizational representatives tried to influence local general bodies (like ‘Paura Samithi’) to file complaints to State ministerial departments and governing bodies notifying print & electronic media. They also worked behind the scenes to organize protests with the various trade unions to annul the construction work of the Mess Hall. It was quite unfortunate that the trade union members marched to the assembly premises as a procession raising slogans against the assembly and worsened to an extend to even physically assault one of the worker involved in the construction. The police took charge of the situation and maintained law and order.

            Our elders were called up and questioned by various departmental authorities multiple times over the past months. Amidst of these persecutions, the assembly and well-wishers around the world wholeheartedly prayed earnestly. One of the government officials (he was a Hindu by faith) who visited the site to investigate these repeated complaints was sarcastic to make this statement, "What is wrong with you people".  It is with excruciating pain in our minds and we are unable to comprehend, as to why these organizations & committees are so much distressed and agitated against the construction of the Mess Hall by the local assembly which is intended to be used for a common gain. If there are any differences of opinions or matters of dispute with the assembly members or the elders, is it scriptural to reach out to police and worldly authorities for a resolution? How dare these organizational follies threaten and abuse the Lord's people? Is it not similar to the state of Israel during their post exile period when prophet cried out – “How long, O LORD, must I call for help, but you do not listen? Or cry out to you, "Violence!" but you do not save? Why do you make me look at injustice? Why do you tolerate wrong? Destruction and violence are before me; there is strife, and conflict abounds. Therefore the law is paralyzed, and justice never prevails. The wicked hem in the righteous, so that justice is perverted.” Habakkuk 1:1-4

It is with a heart of gratitude to the most High that by the manifold grace and mercies of God, even in the midst of these tough oppositions from our own so called brethren, the construction of the Mess Hall was completed (Structure) and a thanks giving service was conducted early Nov 2013. Today it is being used by the assembly for Sunday school and other special activities. Needless to mention, that the same hall was used for the annual gathering of the Kumbanad center ‘Sodari Samajam’ recently.  Even though some work is pending (related to Kitchen and other interiors), it is open for all spiritual meetings among the brethren that glorifies the name of our Lord.

            As of today, many complaints and investigations are pending against our elders.  These official complaints are filed by the same people who are involved in KEMF, SAI, NM High School, Brethren English School and Kumbanad Convention Committee.  Recently, a police complaint was filed against the elders accusing land encroachment by these so called Brethren organizational office bearers and with deep distress we have to write that our elders were called to the local police station for interrogation and an investigation is pending on them in this regard. The complaint is being evaluated and progressed as per the law of the land. There are even threats against few of our brothers.  As a small group of people we appear to be feeble but we put our confidence in our Lord who is able to safe guard His assembly. Please join us and earnestly lift our eyes to HIM that protects us from all evils prevailing through these office bearers of so called Brethren organizations.

            Based on these instances described above, it is impossible to co-operate whole heartedly with the Kumbanad convention event being hosted by the same people who filed the complaints against our elders and who profess themselves as esteemed office bearers and committee members of this Convention event. We are well aware that the committee does not need financial assistance to conduct this grand event (Sorry that we cannot call this as a convention, but only as an event as some flex boards say) at Kumbanad. They have their financial, political and material support and with that anything is possible anywhere. The designated speakers of the Kumbanad Brethren event came to know about the complaints filed against the elders and contacted the local assembly, event committee (hereafter called instead of convention committee) and the BEM School to settle any dispute in their presence.  The request was declined by the event committee and informed the speakers that they have no time to utilize in this regard. Thereafter, the evangelist speakers wrote back saying that they might not be able to minister the word at this 'event' as it will not be honoring the Lord.   At this point, the committee had to agree and met with the Lord’s servants. The end result was unfortunate that no representatives from the BEM school or SAI were present for the discussions.  The event committee informed the Lord’s servants that as a committee they have not filed any complaint or case and hence they cannot withdraw the same. Even though the same committee members are the people who filed complaints against the elders of assembly (as School committee members and SAI representatives), they declined to withdraw the complaints and said that "convention committee is separate and cannot be involved in this".  The designated Lord’s servants had no choice but to agree with the event committee due to the above 'reasons' and communicated the same to elders of the assembly requesting to cooperate with this event for now and settle the concerns with the organizations at a later day. 

Our elders have informed the Lord’s servants that they have issues/objection with committee members. At the same time, they added that they have no concerns regarding the Lord’s servants ministering from the word of God thereby not having any intentions to defame the name of our Lord among the people of this land. In consistence to lateral years, the Assembly Hall, Mess Hall and the premises are given free of cost for this event. The event committee later declined to use the renovated Mess Hall and retaliated that they will be using the school premises instead. As we scribble this document, we don't know what level of involvement as an assembly will be having in this event and it is certainly our personal conviction to not support this event which is organized amidst of dispute and disharmony. We are sad to mention that we refrain from any fellowship with these so called Brethren organizers but will respect the decision of our elders and we pray that God will grant wisdom to them and be bold enough and His name will be glorified through all these happenings.

We request prayers for the following
1.  Whatever the situation be, no untoward incident happens during the Kumbanad Convention and no involvement of police or law enforcement officers during this time.
2.  The Lord's name will not be dishonored among the people of this land during this event season.
     3.  Pray earnestly for the assembly and the elders who are battling several complaints which were filed by our own ‘Brethren’ office bearers.
 
For more details:
http://kumbanadbrethrenyouth.blogspot.in/2013/12/kumbanad-convention-media-reports-facts.html
 
 
Warm Christian Regards,
Youths of Brethren Assembly, Kumbanad


brethrenkumbanad@gmail.com

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Reply by : yanki   View Profile   Since : 23 Dec 2013 12:11:37 PM Close
Steward Association (SAI), Kumbanad Convention Committee and KEM Fund are managed these days by a group of 'brethren' goondas.
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Reply by : appachan   View Profile   Since : 23 Dec 2013 1:44:26 PM Close

 very sad and frankly speaking,shocking.  May the Lord give wisdom and understanding to the brother's to resolve this situation among  various brethren amicably.

 

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Reply by : moses2006   View Profile   Since : 23 Dec 2013 4:24:30 PM Close

Quote, "As time progressed, the missionaries left India and handed over the properties to the Steward Association for maintaining these for the glory of the Lord’s name. One of the conditions that were mentioned in the title/deed transfer is that they have no right to sell the land. The local assembly at each place had the right to use the property for the glory of the Lord by keeping up its testimony."

So, if I read the above paragraph correctly:

1 - SAI holds the title deed of the Kumbanad property and has the right to maintain this property "for the glory of the Lord's name." SAI can never sell the property.

2 - The local assembly has the right to use the property "for the glory of the Lord by keeping up its testimony."

From the above observations, it is clear that:

1 - SAI has the responsibility to maintain the Assembly Mess Hall and protect/update it. When the mess hall was needing repairs, SAI should have stepped in and authorized the repairs, in keeping with maintaining the property.

2 - The use of the property for whatever reason, should be routed through the local assembly and its leadership - since the use of the property is the exclusive right of the local assembly. SAI does not have "usage rights" on the property, unless authorized by the local assembly.

 

All that being said, the kumbanad convention center, is a kind of "spiritual home" to every kerala brethren person. Just as Plymouth was associated with english brethren, Kumband is deeply associated with kerala brethren. So, all kerala brethren have a vested interest to keep that place open to use of all kerala brethren people's spiritual activities. It would bring honor and glory to the Lord's name for the local assembly at Kumbanad to recognize this specialness that all kerala brethren associate with their church space and work with SAI to prevent any harm to the association the place has to the culture and teachings and history of the kerala brethren people, world over.

 

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Reply by : paulthomas1   View Profile   Since : 23 Dec 2013 7:44:04 PM Close

Yanki - Add one more to the list.. TMM.. All run by goons looking to a.maas wealth, social status and publicity. Bunch of spiritually blind believers. The Kumbanad convention is nothing less than the drama you see in kerala politics. Its money and muscle power zindaabad in kerala these days.

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Reply by : samuel.v.j   View Profile   Since : 26 Dec 2013 3:14:16 PM Close

 In the last days Satan will use God’s own people who are not consistent and waivering in faith  to be against the body of Christ !!! Lets all be cautious

 

 

 

Yours in Christ

 

 

Sam

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Reply by : yanki   View Profile   Since : 26 Dec 2013 4:55:27 PM Close
Yes Paulthomas1, TMM is part of the list. Sometime back the Civil Service babu was at the helm of TMM. He thought that with his experience under political babus, he can bring TMM to golden heights! But he never new the under cut and control of brethren mafias in TMM. So he miserably failed and TMM was at the verge of close down due to left backed trade union atrocities. he had to succumb to pressure and had to deliver Rs 15 lacs (TMM money) to a leftist political party office at ernakulam to withdraw the agitation. This was done through the real estate broker at ernakulam. Now the brethren real estate mafia is at the helm of TMM. When white missionaries left, kerala SAI babus were interested in the real estates. They sold out the properties at hill stations - Oooty, kodikanal and other places and even tried to sell a prime property in chennai. The present life time chairman of SAI knows well that in heaven only God is there and no mammon, so mammon can be made only in this world. So they are now eying the real estates at varioes places although it is assembly property. Kerala assembiles are now like the squirrel who lost the 'nut'. With the help of believers all over the world lands have been bought for local assemblies and finally the deed is written in the name of SAI for pitance sum of 10 thousand to 20 thousand rupees from SAI at roofing stage of assembly hall. SAI babus make sure that the original title deed is delivered to them before giving the beggarly alms. In kerala now SAI is controlled by small time touts. At Kumbanad, the imporatnce of the local assembly is gone for them. These days schools are a big business, so their main interest is on the Enlgish Medium school. Where is the money taken from kids at admission time as donation 'kozha' going? nobody knows. It is open truth that no english medium school gives admission in kerala without 'kozha'. That is why SAI is arguing for the english medium school rather than assembly. KEM fund has been managed for many many years without office. Now they want AC office, auditorium, offce staff etc. The money given by God's people for suport of evengelists are being misused. They are masters of poor evangelits too. Think twice beore contributing to KEM fund. Yes, these are all travails of the end times.
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Reply by : beracah   View Profile   Since : 27 Dec 2013 3:49:08 AM Close

Goons /Mafias / Brokers among KB:-

Churches comprising carnal elements are only a mere sample of the larger population outside. What goes on in many KB set ups are not much different from what is reported from Political formations!

 

There are people who threaten to divide and break up God’s church in power tussles. A responsible man of God would never think of dividing or pulling down God’s Church for selfish reasons. The only known force in all creation pitted against God’s Church is the Devil. We do have Devil’s Agents in the garb of Angles of light.

 

God’s people must always be conscious of how serious the Lord is about His Church, it’s functioning and as to who does what. I am aware of the extra interest shown by some Church Functionaries (Read: Bible Teachers and Evangelists who claim to be Servants of God) in the case of few individuals (known for corrupt practices), to secure unscriptural conveniences and positions for them in utter disregard for the Biblical mandate and ultimately in defiance of the Lord Himself.

 

Money & Muscle Power:-

I am reminded of the story of Simon in Acts 8. The following communication of Simon is noteworthy in our context:

 

Acts 8:18 - 19

When Simon saw that the Spirit was given at the laying on of the apostles' hands, he offered them money and said,

 "Give me also this ability so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit."

 

People attempt to buy the “gift of God” with their money and there are “agents / brokers” who labor to facilitate or broker such deals. Those who live in the fear of the Lord would not be a party to such deals.

 

A godly man living in active, lively fellowship with God would not seek to get into positions of prominence through foul means. He would not sinfully covet prominence in God’s House. The Lord would not be working with power mongers and position seekers for building and running His House.

 

Wish you all a peaceful New Year 2014 while among Goons / Mafias & Brokers.

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Reply by : paulthomas1   View Profile   Since : 27 Dec 2013 7:29:46 PM Close

yanki - you are correct. I have seen TMM through the years and the people who have joined and left the governing body/general body. Talk to some of them who left in the late 90's and they will say how corrupt! that place is. I am really sad to hear the plight of the Church at Kumbanad - but be encouraged these are all signs of the end times! The sad part is that the difficuilt situation the believers and elders are going through is not caused by atheists/anti-social elements or other religious orgs. Its by our very own people!

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Reply by : yanki   View Profile   Since : 31 Dec 2013 12:42:51 PM Close

Kumbanad convention concluded as a big hit. It is proof that local assemblies cannot not be at par with Organizations with their muscle and money power. Same 2013 kumbanad convention committee will be declared as 2014 convention committee within 10 days as usual.

Our convention preachers have no doctrinal and spiritual stand when it comes to fundamental issues relating to church. They teach about pastoring the local church and submission to elders (which was the theme talk on Friday) at the convention ground where the very local church is humiliated and snubbed. Preachers these days  are just like hired labourers looking for their dime from the masters.

In 2014, we can expect more of this nature.

http://brethrenjournal.com/2013/12/24/did-someone-say-that-some-people-are-trying-to-take-control-over-brethren-assemblies-to-have-the-control-of-money-circulation-in-the-brethren-economy-through-them/

 

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Reply by : simonmathew65   View Profile   Since : 20 Jan 2014 10:19:12 AM Close

 The responsibilities and authorities  of SAI with respect to the Brethren Assembly properties especially the properties donated by foreign missionaries  is very much in line with what has mentioned by Bro Moses mentioned in his reply dated 23 Dec 2013. There is a very clear court verdict on a case filed against SAI by Kunnamkulam  Brethren Assembly  when SAI tried to sell the property donated by Missionary Nagal  (Kunnamkulam Brethen Assembly  hall and related facilities) which clarifies this. The court has suspended the sale deal made by SAI to a local business person for constructing  cinema theater next to our Assembly hall, is located at the prime location of the town which will cost millions today. Any one require more details of this can approach the elders of Kunnamkulam Assembly and I hope they will be glad to provide more details about the adventures of SAI.

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Reply by : yanki   View Profile   Since : 21 Jan 2014 11:13:11 AM Close

Thank you Simon for the post.
 

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Reply by : appachan   View Profile   Since : 10 Mar 2014 12:44:55 PM Close

i don't know the details of the above case, however, organizations like sai,gfti,kem etc are very convienient when an assembly abroad has to send fellowship to several individuals, some of these org's get funds for 30-40-50 evg/people at one time to show fellowship,which they send to evangelists within india, also saving on international postage.for this reason org's abroad like cmml and gmi etc also prefer this approach as they can wire the money safely and lawfully.with laws becomng very stringent in india and usa due to terror activities by islamic and hindu organizations , all kinds of documentation has to be provided,a mistake and zealous authorities can land folks in jail, I sincerely hope that was the issue in this case and kem was showing due diligence and not due to personal animosity or 'bring them in line policy' , which though plausible, can lead to severe chastening from the Lord , playing with God's provision for his servants never works out , just ask annanias and saphira.

DISCLAIMER: i don't work for any of the org's mentioned above , neither am i assocaited with them in any personal capacity, however i have used them for sending fellowship to evangelists etc and found it to be extremely convienient , never received any complaint of missing funds or not reaching concerned individual.my assembly elder keeps griping of fellowship not reaching evangelists when he send them directly.to them, so nowadays he also uses these org's.

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Reply by : arde   View Profile   Since : 10 Mar 2014 10:31:49 PM Close

Sad to see such discussions and debates find their places on the internet (not only on KB, but other sites also).  These are matters that should be resolved through prayerful and sincere discussions by spiritual men.  Why do we think that the matters among the believers should be taken to or settled by non-believers (courts, police, other authorities)? How sad we have come to this!  How much pain we cause our Saviour in the egotistical pursuit of position, power and control!

This is just an observation from what I have seen and read on the internet.  I do not know the parties involved or the issues, and do not want to take or justify one side or the other.

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Reply by : mithun2   View Profile   Since : 11 Mar 2014 5:42:21 AM Close

Dear arde,

Very true and Agree with you 100%.  However it is possible only when there are spiritual men to lead and it seems that is what is missing at these organizations.   Spiritual men started these organizations for the glory of God and for a purpose that should be honouring our Lord, but unfortunately that is no longer the case atleast regarding some of these leaders.

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Reply by : yanki   View Profile   Since : 11 Mar 2014 9:34:48 AM Close

Appachan,

Is KEM fund parctising due diligence by keeping money designated for some one for more than six months? KEM bosses even dont know the meaning of  the word 'due diligence'!!!
Why people do not want to come out of their comfort level, by just giving money to trusts rather than reaching out the evangelists directly. Evangelists need not only money, more than that all type of support, even a telephonic call and encouragement.
If designated funds are sent to trusts, trusts have a responsibility to see that it reaches the designated persons at the earliests.
Are any of the Donors verififying wthether the money has reached the designated person?
Or are the the trusts like KEM fund informing the donors that they have given the money to the designated persons?
This is where due diligence is required and not in veryfying the anticedents of the recipient.
Churches and Donors give designated payments after they are fully convinced of the recipients. So KEM fund has no role in verifying whether the designated person has terror links.
I have enquired the specific matter with the Canadian Church member and they said the money is given to KEM to pass over to the person and now their responsibility is over!
It looks, the poor brother's family should go and stand before KEM bosses in Kumbanad with stretched arms for alms.

I am talking about designated funds where money is desiganted to be given to particular recipients.
Other funds which the trusts receive, let them do whatever they want.
KEM is making multicrore building at kumbanad out of funds of poor evangelists and they steal from poor man's alms too!!!
Greedy and Hypocritic brethren  leaders hang on too much on Assurance of Salavation and are ready to do any damn thing!

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Reply by : kristianjude   View Profile   Since : 11 Mar 2014 12:11:03 PM Close

“Greedy and Hypocritic brethren leaders hang on too much on Assurance of Salavation and are ready to do any damn thing!” – This statement of ‘yanki’ raises a million dollar question. Assurance of salvation as understood and explained by ES proponents is the root cause for many evil things

(Webmasters, please spare this my post)

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Reply by : moses2006   View Profile   Since : 11 Mar 2014 7:14:51 PM Close

1 Cor 4:5 - Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord comes, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness and reveal the counsels of the hearts. Then each one’s praise will come from God.

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Reply by : appachan   View Profile   Since : 12 Mar 2014 12:31:40 AM Close

Dear Yanki,

Is KEM fund parctising due diligence by keeping money designated for some one for more than six months? KEM bosses even dont know the meaning of  the word 'due diligence'!!!
>> If true, I don't think so they are either.
Why people do not want to come out of their comfort level, by just giving money to trusts rather than reaching out the evangelists directly. Evangelists need not only money, more than that all type of support, even a telephonic call and encouragement.
>> Agreed, there should be more reaching out to evangelists.This is sorely lacking amongst us, you raise a very valid point.
If designated funds are sent to trusts, trusts have a responsibility to see that it reaches the designated persons at the earliests.
>> Nobody disputes this. I believe that is the prime role of these trusts, i:e to faciliate a quick and secure means of disbursing God's provisions for the Evangelists/family etc. Most of these trusts are doing an outstanding job in my opinion.where brothers are sacrificially giving their time and energy without remuneration for basically a thankless effort.
Are any of the Donors verififying wthether the money has reached the designated person?
>> Many evangelists do send acknowledgements, however because of postage costs we generally don't want this burden imposed on them, so have discouraged them from doing so.Men of God in these trusts hopefully/faithfully are sending it.
Or are the the trusts like KEM fund informing the donors that they have given the money to the designated persons?
>> I or our assembly have no experience dealing with KEM fund so cannot anwer this question.If you have issues with KEM , use the others, there are so many. Org's like GMI , CMML insist that we follow up with the designees,They strongly encourage us to have a relationship with the designees  as you also have suggested above. Therefore we have very high regard for these org's.
This is where due diligence is required and not in veryfying the anticedents of the recipient.
>> I digress or disagree, When you know certain brethren for 40-50 years and have been blessed by their faithfulness , you know their testimony/character in and out , due diligence is not required, even where we have randomly checked ,it has been 100% , 
Churches and Donors give designated payments after they are fully convinced of the recipients. So KEM fund has no role in verifying whether the designated person has terror links.
>> This is not true, we show fellowship to evangelists who we have never even heard of , we go by the GFTI evangelists handbook and pick random names.sometimes  state-by-state, many times we have no idea about their background or what is going on , we use the judgement/diligence of these trusts , If they raise objections , we pray over it and decide as the Lord leadds.
I have enquired the specific matter with the Canadian Church member and they said the money is given to KEM to pass over to the person and now their responsibility is over!
>> The canadian church should request accountability from KEM as the brother was suffering from cancer and needed money ASAP , His family should have been given , after him being ushered to the other shore. I would.

It looks, the poor brother's family should go and stand before KEM bosses in Kumbanad with stretched arms for alms.

>> If true, This is pitiful and shameful.

I am talking about designated funds where money is desiganted to be given to particular recipients.Other funds which the trusts receive, let them do whatever they want.

>> my understanding is that designated money is disbursed with no questions asked. my expererience past decades has been good, in fact very good.
KEM is making multicrore building at kumbanad out of funds of poor evangelists and they steal from poor man's alms too!!!
>> Thanks for letting us know , we have never used KEM , so not directly concerned, am trusting  and praying  these are just wild allegations as they are unbelievable ,  do they have an explanantion ?

Since you are deeply exercised by these issues, please go to your elders and and as an assembly if you approach KEM , you might get some anwsers.
I still have a hard time believing your accusations that our responsible brethren are stealing money for their purposes or building lavish structures.these are brethren who know the word of God and the suffering of our evangelists , and would act like pharoah's taskmasters when disbursing funds to soldiers(evg's) in the frontlines, sounds incredulous. May be I am too naive.

 

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Reply by : mithun2   View Profile   Since : 12 Mar 2014 3:39:03 AM Close

Dear appachane,

KEM is making multicrore building at kumbanad out of funds of poor evangelists and they steal from poor man's alms too!!!
>> Thanks for letting us know , we have never used KEM , so not directly concerned, am trusting  and praying  these are just wild allegations as they are unbelievable ,  do they have an explanantion ?

It is true that K E M Fund is making a building at Kumbanad and infact that is one of the cause for  the complaints , police actions and police station visitis at Kumbanad assembly premises. There are serious allegations that Steward association , KEM Fund and Brethren School committee members conspired together and acted against the assembly at Kumbanad and even filed Police complaint (filed by Brethren School commiitee) against the elders.  All the execute commitee members of these three organiztions are almost the same and related to one another .  And the situation has reached to such a worst extent just because of their pride and the intent of  making few rupees.   I doubt the KEMF building that is almost structure complete is a multi crore one, but the estimates that was published in the magazines among Kerala Brethren for willful donations was 30 lakhs. Not sure whether this includes the kick back that was paid to the Brethren English Medium school for land allottement (BEM School committee published a letter saying that KEM Fund paid them donation for land allotement at Kumbanad, KEMF never acknowlegded this publically yet).   it could be more than 30 lakhs by the time constrution completes, if they intent to complete it. It is well over more than a year after the construction started. In fact the same was mentioned by the KEMF secretary during the FIBA conference 2013 and asked for contribution from the brethren around the world.

 

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Reply by : yanki   View Profile   Since : 12 Mar 2014 4:19:24 AM Close

Appachan,

Muthun2 has already answered your doubts regarding KEM multi crore project at Kumbanad.

Answers to your other comments:

>"I still have a hard time believing your accusations that our responsible brethren are stealing money for their purposes or building lavish structures.these are brethren who know the word of God and the suffering of our evangelists , and would act like pharoah's taskmasters when disbursing funds to soldiers(evg's) in the frontlines, sounds incredulous. May be I am too naive''
:This was once upon a time, not now!!!

>Since you are deeply exercised by these issues, please go to your elders and and as an assembly if you approach KEM , you might get some anwsers.
:I and my elders have done this and KEM Fund bosses are elusive, so did I post this for the information of brethren all over the world.

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Reply by : yanki   View Profile   Since : 12 Mar 2014 4:31:46 AM Close

And when KEM Fund give the money to the poor brother's family, I will publish it here if the thread is available.

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Reply by : paulthomas1   View Profile   Since : 12 Mar 2014 8:03:58 PM Close

On Feb 8th there was a publication sent out to many believers by signed by 2 people (i guess they run the show?). It was in malayalam and the last paragraph warns people that they have the option to invoke cyber laws and the laws of the country against people who speak against them... (Now I am scared).. !! Take cover.....

 

 

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Reply by : paulthomas1   View Profile   Since : 12 Mar 2014 8:07:48 PM Close

What does Brig. mean? Bright? Ship compartment? Google doesnt return anything sensible for this to be in front of a name

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Reply by : yanki   View Profile   Since : 13 Mar 2014 3:40:37 AM Close

Paul,

There are other legal provisions too in the country - Financial misappropriation, FERA, COFEPOSA, Charitable Societies and Actvities Act etc

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Reply by : beracah   View Profile   Since : 13 Mar 2014 3:42:40 AM Close

Dear Paulthomas1,

“Brig” could be the abbreviation for “Brigand”.

I am not sure, just speculating, but probable and possible.

From the context of this thread, it seems so!! 

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Reply by : yanki   View Profile   Since : 21 Apr 2014 11:18:55 PM Close

Recent Bulletin by Kumbanad Brethren Youth

Dear Brethren,

 

Greetings in the precious name of our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ!

 

We are again forced to remind the role of organizations among brethren community. Do they stand to support or harm our local assemblies? Are these organizations credible to pertain a stand above the local assemblies?  What are the recent happenings in Kumbanad where the local assembly is being targeted by these organizational follies?

Following the allegations spread against Kumbanad Brethren Assembly by Brethren English Medium School & other organisations through various publications, magazines and social media among the brethren, we have published a communication about the actual facts.

 

Kindly go through the below link/PDF for more details.

 

http://kumbanadbrethrenyouth.blogspot.in/2014/03/blog-post_27.html

 

Warm Christian Regards,

Youths of Brethren Assembly, Kumbanad
Email: brethrenkumbanad@gmail.com

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Reply by : yanki   View Profile   Since : 22 Apr 2014 3:09:30 PM Close

Link below is also relevant

http://kumbanadbrethrenyouth.blogspot.in/2014/02/a-letter-to-bems-kumaband-from-ex.html

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Reply by : mithun2   View Profile   Since : 27 Apr 2014 4:24:19 PM Close

I hope that God will raise a speaker like Elijah who will have the boldness and courage to stand before Jezebel and say that "Your ways are not right"

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Reply by : kristianjude   View Profile   Since : 28 Apr 2014 12:22:04 PM Close

Is SAI the Jezebel here?

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Reply by : mithun2   View Profile   Since : 28 Apr 2014 3:11:47 PM Close

Dear KJ,

Our Lord is the judge.  Let us earnestly pray that those who are involved in sin will repent from their ways. I don't know who is right and who is wrong, but I know that our Lord's name is not honoured by the happenings there and I earnestly pray and hope that Lord will reveal His Glory just like He did at Mount Carmel.  We serve the same Lord of Elijah.

 

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Reply by : tomj   View Profile   Since : 29 Apr 2014 7:26:58 PM Close

Kristianjude,

You wrote in this thread, ““Greedy and Hypocritic brethren leaders hang on too much on Assurance of Salavation and are ready to do any damn thing!” – This statement of ‘yanki’ raises a million dollar question. Assurance of salvation as understood and explained by ES proponents is the root cause for many evil things

(Webmasters, please spare this my post)

Wow!! Do you know the magnitude of what you said here? Your lack of scriptural knowledge may not absolve you from making this accusation against God the Father, God the Son & God the Holy Spirit. The triune God had granted eternal salvation! That statement [though you are lacking in discernment about the scriptures and refuse to accept what God tells in the Bible] boarders blasphemy!  Are you suggesting God’s plan of eternal salvation is the root cause of many evil things? Even if you fail to see what is scriptural about the permanency of salvation, you would have been better off NOT saying what you said above. I’d advise you to delete that posting. [When you delete that posting I will delete mine. Hope you would do it.]

Tom J   

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