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# 00056 :  prayer - to change God's will?
Jer.29/11 Is it possible that our fervent prayers will change God's course of action and his will for us. Does God change His mind and plans for us when we pray? How can we pray for something which may not be according to the will of God?
Post by : lizageorge  View Profile    since : 21 Aug 2005

Reply by : vijualex   View Profile   Since : 22 Aug 2005 12:17:00 AM Close
Dear Liza,
Prayer will help us to understand God's will and plans in our life and mould us to the complete submission to his will.That's what I feel.
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Reply by : sambudhanoor   View Profile   Since : 22 Aug 2005 1:28:44 AM Close
1. When we earnestly pray God will answer our prayers.

Jam 5:16 Confess faults to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous one avails much.

2. We have to pray according to God's Will, not to change God's Will.

1Jo 5:14 And this is the confidence that we have toward Him, that if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us.

3. Normally God's Will shall not change.

Job 23:13 But He is in one mind, and who can turn Him? Yea, what His soul desires, He does it.

Psa 33:11 The counsel of Jehovah stands forever, the thoughts of His heart to all generations.

4. But certain cases God's Will, changed because of fervent prayers, example is King

2Ki 20:1-6 In those days Hezekiah was sick to death. And the prophet Isaiah the son of Amoz came to him and said to him, So says Jehovah, Set your house in order, for you shall die and not live. And he turned his face to the wall and prayed to Jehovah, saying, O Jehovah, I pray, O Jehovah, remember now how I have walked before You in truth and with a sincere heart, and have done good in Your sight. And Hezekiah wept with a great weeping. And it happened, Isaiah had gone out into the middle of the court, the Word of Jehovah came to him saying, Return again and tell Hezekiah the leader of My people, So says Jehovah, the God of David your father, I have heard your prayer, I have seen your tears. Behold, I will heal you. On the third day you shall go up to the house of Jehovah. And I will add fifteen years to your days. And I will deliver you and this city out of the hand of the king of Assyria. And I will defend this city for My own sake, and for My servant David's sake.


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Reply by : sambudhanoor   View Profile   Since : 22 Aug 2005 1:29:36 AM Close
15 years added to his life but what happened because of that, he got a son Manasseh and what he did can read from 1 King 21.

2Ki 21:1-2 Manasseh was twelve years old when he began to reign. And he reigned fifty-five years in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Hephzibah. And he did the evil in the sight of Jehovah, after the abominations of the heathen whom Jehovah cast out before the sons of Israel.

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Reply by :   View Profile   Since : 22 Aug 2005 7:16:36 AM Close
Matthew 6:7 But when you pray, use not vain repetitions, as heathen do;for they think they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Matthew 7:7 Ask ,it shall be given to you, seek, you shall found, knock it shall be opened unto you.

You can ask anything you want in your prayer. But LEAVE IT (FOR) HIS WILL. Matthew 6:8.Your father knows what things you need, before you ask HIM. Note matthew 6:7 and 7:7.


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Reply by : tvarghese1   View Profile   Since : 26 Aug 2005 9:39:09 AM Close
Dear Liza,
It is an interesting question. The answer to this question will lead you to Knowing God’s Will.

According to Jeremiah 29:11, God has only “plans to prosper you and not to harm you”, okay. This is God’s mind. As human beings, we sometimes want to ‘enjoy or have’ certain things, which we ‘THINK’ well for our ‘future’. So we strive and then ‘fervently pray’ for it. You know, our loving Father who only wants to give you the best, may ALLOW you to ‘acquire’ the ‘thing’ you are now seeking, even though it was not in His plan. You get it, enjoy it but you will experience in the course of time that it was a ‘wrong thing’ to pray for it and get it. You will regret that you wasted your time, energy, and ‘slipped out’ from His path. God does this, not to harm you, but to show you in the process that he still LOVES you and has only ‘plans to prosper you’ in store.

If you really want something, which you ‘think’ it is good for you, submit and leave that to God. Don’t insist that I want it. Wait on Him to answer your prayer, He will show you the way you should go. It is quite natural, in the flesh that we tend to get attracted to so many things in this world. He knows that. That is why He has given us the Word. In such situations, read Psalms 37:4-7, 119:105, Isaiah 30:20-21, 49:15-16 and meditate on that. God will help you to do His Will in your life. Be blessed!

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Reply by :   View Profile   Since : 26 Aug 2005 4:10:59 PM Close

I agree with you in saying God will allow you to get what you need in His will. I have experienced it. One year ago, I was praying for a subject. You can say if it was granted, it will be like we 'lived happily ever after'. But those days almost one year I was physically sick everyday for different reasons. I didn't know why. I was suffering physically alot. I continued praying for my family's 'lived happily ever after' subject.During this time for one week my husband went away for his job training to Washington. Every night during family prayer, I prayed for everybody including 'happily ever after subject'. But the day when he was coming back from Washington, the plane almost crash landed in the runway. By GOD'S LOVING CARE AND GRACE, nothing happened to any body. I thanked God on that day. I gave up my subject for living happily ever after and told God, i understood now, it is not the right choice. It is not my will, it is your will be done. I will wait for your will. My sickness was gone also.

Isaiah 30:20,21 And though the Lord give you the bread of adversity, and the water of affliction, yet shall not thy teachers be removed into a corner anymore, but thine eye shall see thy teachers. And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.

Love in Christ,

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Reply by : tvarghese1   View Profile   Since : 27 Aug 2005 9:55:43 AM Close
Hello Sunila,
Thank you for bringing out your personal testimony. This may help people who are struggling with such 'pull and push' of this world, for an unconditional submission to God.

Reminder: All through such 'experiences', we should be able to see HIS EVERLASTING LOVE working for us. Acknowledge that.

May His name be glorified.

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