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# 00091 :  Advice on Choosing the Right Church
Choosing the Right Church I feel that when choosing a church for our family we should take two factors into consideration. 1. Doctrine/Leadership 2. Members/Congregation People often confuse the two. 1. Doctrine/Leadership We should carefully study where the church leadership stands on many doctrinal issues. There are essential doctrines, such as trinity, salvation, bible is the word of God, etc. There are non-essential doctrines such as, pre-tribulation/mid-tribulation/post tribulation, jewelry/no jewelry, etc. We should not attend any churches that have the essential doctrines different then our own, no matter what. We should not worry too much about the non-essential doctrines. Although important, it’s not worth splitting up over these doctrines. Members/Congregation When we talk about members/congregation there is a big differences in the way Malayalee church people and the American church people view church. Most Malayalee churches are in the “belonging” type of churches. They have a strict criteria when attending the church. For example, to be a member of a typical Malayalee Brethren church, you must be saved, baptized, have removed your jewelry, etc. This is also the case in other Malayalee churches (Mar Thoma, Pentecostal, Jacobite, etc.). The only difference is that they have different rules and regulations. (Some American churches are like this too.) But in the case of most Contemporary American churches, they are more of “becoming” type of churches. These churches treat a person who has just come to the church for the first time, especially a non-believer, the same way as they would a mature member of the church. This is hard to understand for many people in the Malayalee community. The person is taught how to become a Christian. In these churches, slowly the person over time takes steps and they are supported as they take every step. Again, depending on the denomination, these steps might vary. But basically you’ll have people at different maturity levels in one church. So on a typical Sunday service, you might see someone with jeans/t-shirt and/or whatever else people don’t like, walk in. So if a church has let’s say 1,000 people, you might find a hundred people who are fully matured Christians ready for ministry, and on the other end you might have a hundred people who are low lives. And everyone else in the middle somewhere. These are two different types of congregations. Which one is better. The answer to that is, whichever one is fulfilling the Great Commandment and the Great Commission? The great commandment is to love your neighbor. The great commission is to bring Christ to the lost. Since the Church consists of believers who are called to be witnesses, it is expected that every church to be a soul-winning church. The soul-winning church begins with the want to before it can move to the how to. How can leaders create a soul-winning church when there is no passion to reach the lost? The most effective motivation in creating soul winners is not preaching about soul winning but telling about it. I question the leaders in the Malayalee community, are they seeking to build God’s kingdom or there own kingdom? Far too many Pastors/Achens/Elders etc., and other leaders and believers are incapable of soul winning in America. Why is this? Because leaders are not willing to go where people are. They expect them to come looking for us. Good teaching and great Praise and worship are not all God has for us! He wants us to know Him, experience His love, and see His power transform our life and the lives of those in our community. God Bless!
Post by : bthomas  View Profile    since : 25 Nov 2005


Reply by : catburglur   View Profile   Since : 25 Nov 2005 12:59:09 PM Close
There is no ecclesiastical organization in the New Testament. Denominationalism or septratist christian cells- is what the bible speaks against. Each church group at this present time claims its own orthodoxy. For example: the Roman Catholic church says its the true and original church from the 1st Century. Pentecostals sects such as (churches of god-clevland indiana & Assemblies of god) suprisingly the same. Too tell you the truth there is no such thing as a picture perfect 100% acurate in doctrine, practice, and life church. Every church group has its strengths and its weaknesses. The Lutherans [strengths] are taking communion every week, laying hands on the sick, and lifting up holy hands during prayer. Whereas the [weaknesses] of the lutherans are baby baptism is salvation sealed during infancy, and clergy laity distinction. Another good remark is the PB's. There [strengths] are somewhat grounding each member in doctrine, knowing fundamentals of the systematics of christ, and worshiping god without musical mechanical instruments. The PB'S [weaknesses] are as follows: constantly greiving the holy spirit by making indirct negative remarks against-tounges-sign gifts function for present day-faith healers, current accusations of divine healing in sickness and soforth. There also weak in worship- when it comes to singing early sunday morning- its so super somber and depressing atmosphere. And this list goes on and on... In the bible- there is no denominationalism (1st Cor 1) Scripture rebukes such partasanship within the body of christ. (Rom 16). My question too you is: is christ the head of your local assembly or is a man-made eccesiastical organization replacing christ? My encouragement too you is: ask god in prayer- and he will show you what he wants you too know about doctrine! Pray too god- he will show you the true practices in his will. Amen.
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Reply by : bthomas   View Profile   Since : 28 Nov 2005 7:20:13 PM Close
“There is no ecclesiastical organization in the New Testament.
Denominationalism or septratist christian cells- is what the bible speaks
against. “

So why does the Brethren Church separate themselves from all other
Christians?


“Each church group at this present time claims its own orthodoxy. For
example: the Roman Catholic church says its the true and original church
from the 1st Century. Pentecostals sects such as (churches of god-clevland
indiana & Assemblies of god) suprisingly the same.”

Not all churches are like the Roman Catholic Church (claiming to be the
only true church). I attend an Assemblies of God church. I have been to
Brethren and other non-charismatic churches. You are generalizing by
saying that all Pentecostal denominations have a full structure. You are
right on the fact that the Church of God (Cleveland, Tenn.) has a structure
cause the movement came out of the Methodist movement which came out of the
Anglican Communion which came out of the Roman Catholic Church. They never
got rid of the organization structure because it was never a problem to
them; in fact they used it as an advantage to keep certain people from
changing the doctrine. On the other hand, the Assemblies of God came out
of the Baptist movement, which came out of the Anabaptist movement (like
the Brethren movement). They were somewhat against organized structure.
The Assemblies of God is still against this and all local Assemblies of God
churches are run separately. The Indian Pentecostal Church came out of the
Brethren movement, so they also have a strong local church.

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Reply by : bthomas   View Profile   Since : 28 Nov 2005 7:22:36 PM Close
...continued

“ Too tell you the truth there is no such thing as a picture perfect 100%
acurate in doctrine, practice, and life church. “

Agreed.


“Every church group has its strengths and its weaknesses. The Lutherans
[strengths] are taking communion every week, laying hands on the sick, and
lifting up holy hands during prayer. Whereas the [weaknesses] of the
lutherans are baby baptism is salvation sealed during infancy, and clergy
laity distinction. Another good remark is the PB's. There [strengths] are
somewhat grounding each member in doctrine, knowing fundamentals of the
systematics of christ, and worshiping god without musical mechanical
instruments. The PB'S [weaknesses] are as follows: constantly greiving the
holy spirit by making indirct negative remarks against-tounges-sign gifts
function for present day-faith healers, current accusations of divine
healing in sickness and soforth. There also weak in worship- when it comes
to singing early sunday morning- its so super somber and depressing
atmosphere. And this list goes on and on... “

This strength vs. weakness is if everyone believes in exactly what you
believe in. The way I see it, all these churches have both good people and
bad people. Church is for sinners, so it doesn’t matter. But many of them
are not fulfilling the great commission. They just huddle together keeping
God to themselves.

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Reply by : bthomas   View Profile   Since : 28 Nov 2005 7:23:19 PM Close
...continued

“In the bible- there is no denominationalism (1st Cor 1) Scripture rebukes
such partasanship within the body of christ. (Rom 16). “

You are mixing up verses to help your cause. There is only one universal
church, I agree. But sometimes, different churches are needed for
different types of people.


“My question too you is: is christ the head of your local assembly or is a
man-made eccesiastical organization replacing christ?”

That is basic Christianity, of course Christ is.


“My encouragement too you is: ask god in prayer- and he will show you what
he wants you too know about doctrine! Pray too god- he will show you the
true practices in his will. Amen.”

Prayer is the first step. But also remember that God gave us wisdom and
knowledge, so we should use it when making decisions.

God Bless!

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Reply by : aaa   View Profile   Since : 22 Dec 2005 1:56:44 PM Close
For different people, the right church can mean different things.
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