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# 01481 :  Christmas Celebration....Is it Appropriate ?
Believers need to think twice before celebrating December 25th as the birthday of Jesus Christ.. Why should we accept this date for which Bible doesnot give any clues....

Here is a small description regarding the origin of Christmas.. (Copied from www.simpletoremember.com).

Roman pagans first introduced the holiday of Saturnalia, a week long period of lawlessness celebrated between December 17-25. During this period, Roman courts were closed, and Roman law dictated that no one could be punished for damaging property or injuring people during the weeklong celebration. The festival began when Roman authorities chose “an enemy of the Roman people” to represent the “Lord of Misrule.” Each Roman community selected a victim whom they forced to indulge in food and other physical pleasures throughout the week. At the festival’s conclusion, December 25th, Roman authorities believed they were destroying the forces of darkness by brutally murdering this innocent man or woman.

B. The ancient Greek writer poet and historian Lucian (in his dialogue entitled Saturnalia) describes the festival’s observance in his time. In addition to human sacrifice, he mentions these customs: widespread intoxication; going from house to house while singing naked; rape and other sexual license; and consuming human-shaped biscuits (still produced in some English and most German bakeries during the Christmas season).

C. In the 4th century CE, Christianity imported the Saturnalia festival hoping to take the pagan masses in with it. Christian leaders succeeded in converting to Christianity large numbers of pagans by promising them that they could continue to celebrate the Saturnalia as Christians.[2]

D. The problem was that there was nothing intrinsically Christian about Saturnalia. To remedy this, these Christian leaders named Saturnalia’s concluding day, December 25th, to be Jesus’ birthday.

Post by : mithun2  View Profile    since : 22 Dec 2007


Reply by : sambudhanoor   View Profile   Since : 22 Dec 2007 11:37:15 PM Close
Dear mithun2

We had been discussed it earlier, which can be seen in the following threads:

http://keralabrethren.net/boardkbA/view.asp?id=477&forum=General2004

http://keralabrethren.net/boardkb/view.asp?id=1453&forum=General

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Reply by : tomj   View Profile   Since : 24 Dec 2007 2:51:54 PM Close
Dear Readers - Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!

Regarding Christmas celebration Lee Strobel writes;

“If you are fully convinced that you cannot, in good conscience, observe a particular Christmas tradition - do not observe it. If you are fully convinced that a particular tradition is too steeped in paganism to honor God in any way, by all means, forsake that tradition. At the same time, if you are fully convinced that you can honor and worship God through a particular tradition - honor and worship God (Romans 14:5)! For Christians, Christmas traditions can be an important part of the celebration of the birth of our Savior, and they remind us of that momentous event that changed the world forever. More importantly, they bring to mind the miracle of new birth He created in us when He came into our hearts, saved us from our sins, and made us children of God by the shedding of His blood on the Cross (Colossians 1:20). It is this amazing truth that enables us to say with the angels, “Glory to God in the highest and on earth peace, good will toward men” (Luke 2:14).”

I will share how I view it and I would share my testimony in the next frame.


Contd.

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Reply by : tomj   View Profile   Since : 24 Dec 2007 2:54:03 PM Close
My testimony…..

I personally am not hung up on debating the aptness of this celebration. If someone wishes me Merry Christmas I will cheerfully return the wish. I am actually thankful for this time because it gives an opportunity to share the Gospel. I received many Christmas Cards through email this year. They are sent by people of different faith, ethnicity, color and gender. I thought it is a wonderful opportunity to share the Gospel. After all, they initiated sending me a Christmas card!

As I started returning the Christmas wishes and expressed my appreciation. I started attaching an article by William MacDonald; “The Final Destiny” along with my reply. It is about 15 pages long and I had it ready on my PC for email. Now they have provided me with their email ID and wished me the Christmas wishes; I am just sending a reply, saying I am attaching an article for you to read which gives the true meaning of Christmas. Over 90% of the recipients I have never met in person and they live across the globe, different continents.

Friends, we have an opportunity to witness the Lord and tell what the true meaning of Christmas is all about nicely. Why waste that opportunity by debating on the issue? Use it wisely and explain the gospel. If any of you like to get an email copy of this e-book (also available through D & K press, California in printed form – an excellent small book to order in bulk and hand out) please send me an email – tomj3162000@yahoo.com.

Regards,

Tom J

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Reply by : samuel.v.j   View Profile   Since : 25 Dec 2007 10:09:23 AM Close
Dear brethren in Christ,

All those who are born again believe cent percent the birth of Jesus Christ and the Gospel is not complete without the sacrifice of our savior, birth of Jesus Christ is there any biblical reference of date , and like wise the crucifixion or the sacrifice of our savior also doesnt refer any date in the scripture. The nominal christians wanted a celebration as the gentiles wanted , and they made a suitable date in the winter season to suit thier facilities.

Jesus Christ lived more than 33 years , do we read any where in the scriptures Mary and Joseph celebrated birthday , or the disciples remembering thier masters birthdate or celebrating it, there is one ordinance to be followed till he comes the breaking of bread which makes us aware about the crucifixion.

So why do we want to be like a nominal christian, let us follow what the scriptures says and not what the world says


Yours in Christ
Samuel.V.J

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Reply by : mithun2   View Profile   Since : 25 Dec 2007 12:08:38 PM Close
Thanks Tomj and others for sharing your views regarding this...

Two years back , the retail giant (wal*mart) came up with the wishes 'Happy Holidays' instead of 'Merry Christmas' and many of the christians around the nation insisted an apology for them and called out for a 'Nation wide boycott' ....

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47358

Why should we Christians(I Meant believers) insist on celebrating Jesus's birthday on Decemeber and join these protesters... I know many of the Chapels in North America have special Christmas carols and party's at many of the houses... They decorate chirstmas tree, lighten there houses .. just like nominal christians do....

I am not in favor of celebrating christmas/Easter ..but happy about having another holiday season and remember God's grace toward me....

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Reply by : Varghese   View Profile   Since : 25 Dec 2007 2:16:04 PM Close
One thing we all agree is that the Lord Jesus came down and was born in manger, for our salvation. The issue that is of dispute is as to when He was actually born and on whether we must set apart a day.

For believers, His coming & death must be a daily reminder. In a sense, we must celebrate Christmas daily in our lives by leading a grateful life pleasing to the Lord.

If we celebrate the Lord’s advent in the way we live, then the question of celebrating additionally a special day like December 25th must be left to each one’s prerogative. Putting some decorations doesn’t necessarily make us to be like nominal Christians, if the motive behind it is to show forth my Christian identity. After all the inner change is what separates us from the heathen. Moreover, the Bible doesn’t talk on many topics and so using that as a pretext to not celebrate Christmas is a bit far-fetched. Let each believer have the freedom to decide on how he/she should celebrate Christmas.

I find this season to be an excellent opportunity to witness. If our motive is to magnify our Lord in what we do, then go for it. If someone is hesitant in putting up decorations, then don’t. Either way, we must focus on living a godly life for His glory.

God Bless!

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Reply by : samv   View Profile   Since : 25 Dec 2007 5:34:27 PM Close
We, as believers are remembering the birth, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ every Sunday. There is no point in celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ on December 25th, which was not actually the birth day of Jesus Christ.
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Reply by : kumbanadan   View Profile   Since : 25 Dec 2007 9:45:40 PM Close
Dear Readers,
Dont be carried away with the liberal theologies of some which justifies christmas celebrations as an oportunity to spread gospel, as though there are no other oportunities do so.
Christmas celebration is totally pagan and anti-scriptural. Our brethren church will take serious action against any believer who celebrates the pagan festival called christmas.
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Reply by : beracah   View Profile   Since : 25 Dec 2007 10:47:26 PM Close

Festivity is ingrained in the mood of this season and I had a nice time with my family. We attended carol service in a Church in spite of us being brethren. Bought a Christmas cake; received & sent Greeting Cards (paper & e-cards); and e-mail messages from / to friends, colleagues and relatives. Overall, it was a good time and I thank the Lord for this season of happiness and above all:

For giving us the priceless gift – JESUS the SAVIOR.

Luke 2:14 "Glory to God in the highest,
and on earth peace to men on whom his favor rests."

Thomas Varghese

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Reply by : sambudhanoor   View Profile   Since : 27 Dec 2007 2:00:11 AM Close
A good article can be seen in the following thread:

Should a Christian Celebrate Christmas?

http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/xmas/celeb.htm

As the true Christians what we can do is to use this occasion also to share the Gospel so as the Jesus Christ be born in the un-believers heart.

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Reply by : ukobserver   View Profile   Since : 28 Dec 2007 5:42:14 PM Close
We should celebrate the birth day of Jesus. We should also celebrate the death of Jesus.
And what about the brothers and sister of Jesus? Of course we should also celebrate their birthday and the death anniversary.
And what else more? Oh yes!!!!!!! The birth day of the God the father. And …….death anniversary? (May God forgive us)
Lucky , the bible does not mention about the God the mother.

Where are we heading? To the hell or heaven ?

Hebrews 12:1 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles, and let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us.2Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. 3Consider him who endured such opposition from sinful men, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart.

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Reply by : oso2005   View Profile   Since : 14 Jan 2008 6:03:48 PM Close
kumbanadan - "Our brethren church will take serious action against any believer who celebrates the pagan festival called christmas.".. What kind of action do you take??
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Reply by : blbenny   View Profile   Since : 21 Jan 2008 2:11:18 AM Close
An interesting topic debated both by believers and others. The celebration of Christmas is to be taken in its perspective of the person celebrating it. This celebration may be an extension of any culture or creed. The most important aspect is how do we use this occasion and the purpose of celebration. The date is important only for the sake of doing it together. The question may be why do we need a particular date. The question is like many people ask why one should attend a Church for workship and prayer. Will Lord our God listen our prayer from our own houses ? Why should we assemble in a particular place for worship? Instead of debating on the date, a believer should use all these opportunities to spread the message of Love, Peace and Salvation.
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