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# 00829 :  To All Forum Participants . . . . . .
Reading a few posts, I have concluded that certain postings by certain people are not meeting the needs for which they are written in the first place!

My desire is that we must learn to agree to disagree and not let our desire to share our convictions drive people away. That beats the purpose of this forum.

Theology & doctrine is good. So is speaking the truth in love. If one’s teaching is viewed by others as being prideful, self-exalting & critical, please take notice and change one’s style.

This is my personal appeal!

God Bless!

Post by : Varghese  View Profile    since : 9 May 2006


Reply by : johnmiller   View Profile   Since : 10 May 2006 7:53:32 AM Close
I feel greatly challenged, personally, by this exhortation and would urge all contributors to consider its force and wisdom. Peter says, "..and above all things have fervent love among yourselves; for love shall cover the multitude of sins."

Your brother in Christ,

John

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 15 May 2006 8:25:01 AM Close
Dear Readers, Part-1

Recently, it has been said repeatedly about certain person being proud, self-exalting, and critical on this forum. It is generally assumed that when few people are saying this about a particular individual, then it must be true. I wish to explore this in detail, if possible, after reading brothers Varghese and John Miller’s postings on this thread.

It is generally accepted in this world that in a dialog, debate, or on a forum like this, everyone has the responsibility to provide answers to questions that are posed to them by others. These questions should be related to the subject matter under consideration. If not, the dialog, debate, or discussion will end up in chaos and I call it being hijacked. When related questions are placed, the other party has the moral obligation, is not spiritual, to answer them before going further. If any refuse to answer and proceed further, then it is considered not only unacceptable by the world, it is also unbecoming of a gentleman. This includes arrogance, pride and self-exaltation.

In the past, I have placed many questions to other contributors. Some of them (Moses LemuelRaj, John Miller, Johnson C. Philip, Tom J, ‘Youth_4_Christ,’ Varghese, ‘berecha,’ Sambudhanoor, are some of them) do answer. Writing in agreement or disagreement is not what I am addressing here. THEY DID ANSWER. The answering of questions shows that the discussion is proceeding with an underlying understanding of equality between the participants. No one is self-exalting over the other, even when they differ. But there are many (‘sharedconcept,’ ‘asdpoilkj,’ ‘abc,’ ‘matt10_8,’ ‘sunilajoseph@aol.com,’ ‘pc,’ ‘jc,’ “Jake,’ ‘stephen1,’ ‘sudheer1,' are some of them) who refuse to answer. While refusing to answer they offer advice. There is a showing of superiority or self-exaltation, arrogance, and pride by those who refuse to answer questions that are placed to them based on their own previous writings...-->

(To be cont. Part-2)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 15 May 2006 8:26:46 AM Close
Dear Readers, Part-2

<--... Not only that, they also accuse those who ask questions as being proud, self-exalting, arrogant, and so on. Their actions include name-calling and use of cuss words. In my case, when such accusative actions are extended without a tint of Christian love, I usually place it before the Lord and continue. I always try to answer all related questions, those that are asked, as well as objections to what others wrote. This may make my postings long. I take the pain of answering the questions and objections to my postings from the scriptures, only because I consider them as my equal and therefore they deserve an answer. (Recently as the week of 7th May 2006, one wrote that my reliance on the scriptures as shown in my postings is annoyance to him. My actions to answer in detail and to indicate that the Word of God is the only and final authority is a clear indication of my mind-set of equality among the participants on this forum and elsewhere. Those who do not have such a mind-set are those who accuse others of self-exalting. The scripture demands that we esteem one another better than ourselves (Philippians 2:3). This I do. Asking questions to others for clarification, answering questions from others for further explanation to make them understand, and quoting the scriptures are the ways of showing this act of esteeming (HEGEOMAI = to lead out. It is different from KRINO = to judge – Romans 14:5, and LOGOZOMAI = to reckon – Romans 14:14. These three Greek words are translated as ‘esteem’ in KJV.). “Agreeing to disagree” on what is required of a believer by God is not the show of equality, on the other hand it is a show of our capacity to disagree with God. When one tries to follow the scriptures “as it is written,” then we see that that person is not self-exalting, but he/she is exalting Christ per John 14:15, 21, 23. This is what Christ said, and He said it repeatedly...-->

(To be cont. Part-3)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 15 May 2006 8:29:01 AM Close
Dear Readerrs, Part-3

<--... The Father told James, John, and Peter, “This is my beloved Son; hear him” (Luke 9:35). In John 17 our Lord Jesus Christ prayed not only for His disciples but also for those who will believe because of their word. This includes me (Here I am too personal). In Acts 2:42 we read about those who believed because of the words of the disciples were preserved in the teachings of the apostles. Let me add, asking questions expecting an answer are part of epistemology of this world and it is the clear sign of being epistemic.

I wish to write on the subject of pride. Usually among Christians we talk about meekness as a desirable characteristics in place of pride. I agree. What is meekness? According to the common usage of this word, it is the exhibition of humility and patience. It could also mean, “Easily imposed on.” Is this the meekness that is required of us by God as seen in the scriptures? There are two persons who are mentioned as meek in the scriptures. In Numbers 12:3 Moses was called “very meek” above all those who were on this earth and it was by God. In the Book of Exodus we read that when Moses saw the golden calf, he ground it into powder and mixed it in water and made those who danced before the golden calf to drink that mixture. There were more than one million people. According to the human definition of ‘meekness’ who will agree that this Moses is “very meek” above all those who were on the earth? In Exodus 33 we also read that Moses took his tent from among the people of Israel and pitched it outside and the glory of God went with him. Is this kind of separation will be considered as a characteristic of a ‘meek’ person, by this world’s standard? Of course not. It was God who called him “very meek” above all those who were on the earth. The second person who is mentioned as meek is our Lord Jesus Christ and we read it in Matthew 11:29...-->

(To be cont. Part-4)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 15 May 2006 8:30:57 AM Close
Dear Readers, Part-4

<--... It is the same One who made whips and whipped the moneychangers and sellers of animals and birds in the temple at Jerusalem. He did this not once, but twice. The first one was at the beginning of His ministry (John 2) and the other towards the end of His ministry (Matthew 21:12) on this earth. In doing so He made the moneychangers to lose some of their profit. Over and above that, He also made those animals unacceptable for sacrifice, because they were scared. The birds were not available for sacrifice, because they flew away without scars. If we read about His explanation after the whipping, we could understand what is meant by ‘meekness,’ by God. It is never, “Let us get along and tolerate teachings that are contrary to that is in the Word of God.” The pride is in opposition to this ‘meekness’ that is taught in the scriptures. When we replace what is written in the Word of God with our ideas, then we are showing our pride and arrogance towards God, and not ‘meekness.’ When we refuse to answer others’ questions, then we are showing our pride and arrogance to others. When we resort to name calling, especially when we don’t have answers, then we are showing our arrogance. When we align ourselves behind those who exhibit such tendencies, then we are showing our pride, self-exaltation, and arrogance. I do not think that it is towards a participant on this forum, but it is against the Holy Spirit who provided the teachings in the scriptures for us to follow. If we review such actions on this forum, it is surprising that mostly those who claim to have the baptism of the Holy Spirit as a second blessing and speaking in tongue as its sign are those who behave this way. I also see that it is a characteristic of persons who dance before God. I wish to challenge them to reconsider their position before God. Recently another person wrote that he does not have to accept the epistles of Paul...-->

(To be cont. Part-5)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 15 May 2006 8:32:50 AM Close
Dear Readers, Part-5

<--... What he wrote was that he does not want to be preserved in the doctrines of the apostles as we read in Acts 2:42. Those who exhibit such tendencies of self-exaltation, pride, and arrogance also try to hijack threads; this is done repeatedly, by interjecting non-relevant comments and postings. An example of this is the thread “For Information Only.” They think that it is a sign of their smartness. It is not. If they were smart, they would have started a thread of their own and welcomed others to participate.

Another sign of self-exaltation is the claim of minority Christian status. It is not in the scriptures. All are saved by the same blood of the Lamb and are adopted to be children of God in Christ. In Ephesians we read that the middle-wall of partition between Jews and Gentiles are broken down and there is only one fold in Christ. There is no minority or majority Christians. All are one in Christ. He prayed for the unity of believers that is patterned after the unity of the Father and the Son. We read about this in John 17. Any who claims otherwise is trying to self-exalt himself/herself, using the ways of this world as practiced by politicians. Among those who are called by that excellent name by God, Christians, there are no Jews or Gentiles. There are only Christians, members of the one body with its glorious Head in heaven. All are equal – brethren. Calling for the excommunication of a contributor, because he/she asks questions when they have no answer, is another sign of arrogance, self-exaltation, and pride.

(To be cont. Part-6)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 15 May 2006 8:33:56 AM Close
Dear Readers, Part-6

I also wish to address the question of being critical. We are told that we should test all. Testing of those who called apostles and found that they were not was commended by the Lord Jesus Christ in his epistle to one of the assemblies and we read this in Revelation 2 & 3. Being critical of what one writes on this forum or elsewhere is not a bad thing. The Lord Jesus Christ encouraged such testing by challenging others with the phrase, “Search the scriptures.” He also added, “It is written of me.” When scriptures were expounded, the disciples’ hearts were burned within them.

I wish to stop with the following remarks. This is my promise and I did write this before; if the administrators of this forum ask me to cease contributing, I will do that. All I need is a specific statement from them. If they ask me to compromise on the Word of God, then I can’t. It is not my word to compromise; it is God’s word. When I write on ‘subjects of interest’ or ‘points of interest,’ then they are my words and I have no compunction about agreeing to disagree. When it is the doctrines and my Lord’s words, I would disagree to agree with those who manipulate them. This disagreeing to agree is in love to the Lord Jesus Christ and not to be popular and liked. I am only a human, a sinner, saved by His grace and called His son. I am eternally grateful. I am not perfect, but He still calls me His son and encourages me to be faithful to His word as written in one of the epistles of my (I consider this very personal, so I did not use the word ‘our’ as commonly preferred) Lord Jesus Christ to one of the assemblies (Revelation 3:8). In all His seven letters the promises are to the overcomers (plural and individual, not corporate) and not those who agreed to disagree and tolerated teachings (doctrines) that are contrary to what the Spirit says to those who have ears to hear.

Shalom malekim!!!

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Reply by : sunilajoseph@aol.com   View Profile   Since : 15 May 2006 6:45:37 PM Close
Gpk,

The above posting of yours describes few of my qualities. I don't have those qualities or specialities as you have described. If you ask politely and respectfully any question to any body, they will answer the question atleast for curtsy. I may skipped one or two questions at times, but i answered them few days later. This forum is telling others that they are talking about bible and they are criticizing pentacostal and jewish believers in a row and they delete or suspend postings written by others, evenif this net is for public. I didn't see any quality in this forum. It is some so called people's business to redicule believers behind the name 'Brethrens'. I doubt it is for Brethrens only because most of the well received contributors are not Brethren. It should be "an equal oportunity" because my living God died on the cross not only for me, but also for the whole world. For both sinners and so called perfect saints.

Gpk, I have a humble request, it is not an appeal, tell me, if you still remember the questions you asked me from year 2005 which i didn't answer, i will surely answer you. Don't ask questions about my husband. That is the quality.

Sunila.

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 16 May 2006 8:57:34 AM Close
'sunilajoseph@aol.com,'

Thank you for you posting. I do not keep a separate list for questions that are not answered by other contributors. You have to go over the past psotings and search it out, if you are interested in answering my past questions that were resulted from your past postings.

I always make sure that the other contributor understand what I would like to know, when asking a question. I quote as specific as I can, I even include the date and time of the posting along with the quote. I also ask what I would like to know. This is a very acceptable way of being polite. When I review articles for techinical and scietific journals, I do the same and get the answers. On this forum, I try to be specific and close to the scriptures as I can. But is it not the Pentecostals who are unpolite and use derogatory remarks on 'Brethren?' Being a non-Brethren, I know this as a fact. I never said anything against Jews or Jewish Christians. I know many of them and have good relationship. I always enjoy their company, because they came out and went outside the camp as Moses did. I encourage them to do so. A few would like to remain in the camp and it is the Jews who expell them. I show this fallacy to them. It is not criticizing, it is encouraging them to be obedient to the Word of God.

Please be assured that I am not interested in your husband. Why are you mentioning about him, occassionally?

As I understand, this is a forum for discussion on Biblical subjects. At the same time, this is not a public forum, but public could make postings that are subjected to the rules established by the administrators. Even I am not free to post anything I want. I have agreed to abide by certain guidelines. Once I agreed to abide by them, I do so, because my 'yea' is 'yea' and my 'nay' is 'nay.' I do not question the decision and suggestions of the admninistrators, because they own this forum. The public doesn't. You and me, along with all others, should never forget this fact.

Shalom malekim!!!

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Reply by : sunilajoseph@aol.com   View Profile   Since : 16 May 2006 9:37:09 PM Close
Gpk,

I was writting in general about this forum addressing you. I do not want to go back to my past, i want to move to the front. It is a shame that this forum talked in a negative way about holy spirit, baptism in holy spirit and pentacostals who worship God in truth and spirit in person in their every gathering. How many brethrens in their gathering say a word of praise. May be one or two elders and the evangelist. The people who come and sit and observe the timetable of sunday meeting in brethren assembly is allergic to see pentacostals website. They are talking about their dance which is acceptable to God (if it was not, it will not come upto 2000 yrs)very irresptively. They appreciate and allow hinduism (wearing of wedding ring)more than pentacostalism (which is recorded in the bible-the scripture from heaven.). God will not tolerate any more. There is a limit to everything. We have to be fearful and must know who is God.

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Reply by : sunilajoseph@aol.com   View Profile   Since : 17 May 2006 5:50:02 AM Close
typo:
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which is acceptable to God (if it was not, it will not come upto 2000 yrs)very irresptively.

corection:
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very irrespectfully = without respect.


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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 17 May 2006 7:07:58 AM Close
'sunilajoseph@aol.com,'

As usual you are trying to write about a group of Christian without respect, but with arrogance and pride. If you want to write about 'dancing before God,' you should start another thread and not to use this thread. Read the first posting by brother Varghese and learn what was the intent of this thread. Your 'going forward' appears to be repeating the old ways of displaying your arogance and disrespect by hijacking a thread to create chaos. This is not 'going forward,' as you say, but it is going backward.

I will be glad to answer your misconceptions about 'dancing before God' in a new thread, if you start one.

Shalom malekim!!!

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Reply by : Varghese   View Profile   Since : 17 May 2006 8:42:20 AM Close
Sunila,

I guess you hare taking this thread from its initial scope. Please restrain yourself.

As you might know by now, this is a Brethren Forum aiming to encourage one another to learn scripture. This forum is not meant to be injected with anyone’s personal style of Pentecostalism. This forum is to teach scripture and to apply scriptures in our lives. This forum is not meant to uphold certain cultural practices as scriptural norms. Please be reminded that this forum is read by people from all walks of life, from different places in the world, from different cultural backgrounds! From your previous posting, it seems that you allow certain cultural norms to dictate your beliefs and in the process, get blind-sided to scriptural interpretations.

God Bless!

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Reply by : sunilajoseph@aol.com   View Profile   Since : 17 May 2006 7:53:33 PM Close
GPK and Varghese,
My response was to the posting by GPK describing few qualities and behaviour of me in a brethren forum. I don't want to be described by him like that. There is a saying in malayalam, "oollathu parayumbam kalliku thullum". That doesn't apply to me. The above posting of gpk and Varghese is a clear show of that saying. GPK and varghese are descibing how i am doing. And when i tell them the truth they defend themselves by saying somethingelse. Why can't you tell us that you did it. That is the way to do it. It is not hijacking the thread. It is leting know somebody something.

Quote:Your 'going forward' appears to be repeating the old ways of displaying your arogance and disrespect by hijacking a thread to create chaos. This is not 'going forward,' as you say, but it is going backward."

That is like name calling.

Quote:As you might know by now, this is a Brethren Forum aiming to encourage one another to learn scripture."
I don't know that.I didn't get any teaching from GPK or Vargese yet.Both of them make comments on others writtings word by word.As all of you know, i started a thread to learn 'Judgement seat of God'. I didn't get the teaching from GPK or Varghese. GPK will start writting when somebody else finish teaching about it. Is it true. Is that "oollathu".
Quote:This forum is not meant to be injected with anyone’s personal style of Pentecostalism."

What is this forum for. Is this forum to describe somebody's personal style or behaviour. That is not learning bible. If some body ask a question , Can we call husband by his name? The answer to that question is "Why? Did you get a slap?". What is this Brethrens in Keralabrethren.net want to study and teach? Is it Hell.... I know it is not "Praise and Worship". The reason of my writing this post is to tell GPK that "I am not your waste basket to throw your garbage". Varghese talk to me with decency and manners. I gave the website thinking that somebody who will make advantage of that. Giving website is not my way of evangelisation

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Reply by : etoile   View Profile   Since : 17 May 2006 8:18:32 PM Close
dear sunila joseph and george p koshy...thruought this whole conversation you are having you are both completely going against what this whole thread was trying to accomplish..sunila joseph please dont be so offended by what george p koshy says and strike back at him, and george p koshy please refrain from acting higher than others and treating them disrespectfully like they know nothing, maybe they do not know as much as you supposidly do or have a slightly different opinion, but there is no need to go against what Jesus said and not show love to them.... please stop acting like a hypocrite both of you...please just try to love your neightbor as yourself...if jesus can forgive his killers cant you two just get along and shine with his love instead of dripping you hurtful words on this forum?
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Reply by : ann1   View Profile   Since : 17 May 2006 10:54:26 PM Close
I have been a silent reader of this forum for a while now. But Bro. Koshy’s reply prompted me to break my silence. There is no dispute that Bro. Koshy knows his scripture very well. Everyone in this forum may have different opinions about a certain topic. But it is how we respond to it that makes the difference. Probably what lacks in Bro. Koshy’s reply is humility. Bro. Miller is an older believer and his maturity comes through the answers he gives. Look at the reply he gave to Sudheer’s postings.
We have every right to correct one another when one is wrong in the way Scripture is interpreted. But do so with humility and grace. When we lack that it comes out as arrogance and it rubs people in the wrong way. If people are turned away by the way we respond we do not glorify god in any means. So let us be careful as to how we respond and be mindful of who is watching us.
Pro 15:1 A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger.
Ann
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Reply by : sunilajoseph@aol.com   View Profile   Since : 18 May 2006 5:36:10 AM Close
etoile,

What do you think? What i have to do if somebody throw mud on me? You think I have to be silent accepting whatever he said? If he has a bit of Jesus love in his heart, he won't tell others that they are proud, arrogant, hijackers etc.
What do you think? Are we hijacking the net? Are we supposed to compared to hijackers?

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 18 May 2006 7:48:37 AM Close
'sunillajoseph@aol.com,'

Please start a new thread and I will be glad to answer your concerns.

Shalom malekim!!!

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 18 May 2006 7:57:55 AM Close
To All Paritcipants,

In my case, I start another thread on a subject that is discussed, only after the participants willfully refused to answer my questions. It is required in a Bible study that questioned are to be asked and others are to answer. Even the Lord Jesus Christ used this method. Refusing to answer because they have no scriptures to support their standing is arrogance. Those who do so may differ with me on this. Even according to the etiquette of this word, answering a question that is resulted from a statement should be answered by the author of that statement. That is all I ask for. I have a right to ask for it. Exercising my right is not lack of humility. It is showing that all are equal.

Shalom malekim!!!

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Reply by : Varghese   View Profile   Since : 18 May 2006 8:29:06 AM Close
This thread is spinning out of control and has left the initial scope for which the thread was started. My intention is not to stir up any personal emotions but to remind everyone to share thoughts to one another in the spirit of Christian love. I do not wish to write more now on this matter & ignite a smoldering personal squabble. Let us strive to defend the truth but with meekness & humility!

God Bless!

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Reply by : anubjohn   View Profile   Since : 18 May 2006 10:19:22 AM Close
Iam new to this site. The first two topics and related discussions that I read were quite upsetting. I was quite disappointed by the way people were responding to each other. People seem to be taking things very personally, attacking each other (so it seems to the one who reads it). This is a discussion forum, we don't have to get worked up and jump at everything what others write. Yes, we need to correct their wrong ideas but in a manner that is edifying and encouraging. Questions can be asked but you cannot force someone to answer it. It is up to them. If they don't i think the message is clear - they are asking questions for the sake of asking without any purpose or they are not interested in answering that particular question for some reason. The Lord jesus never went after to get an answer from those who didn't show interest. I think we should learn to do the same. Arguments and forcing others is not very effective in getting a person to understand the truth. The person who is doing it may get the pleasure of stating the truth in an orderly manner but it doesn't help in edifying. Therefore, please try tomake the truth more palatable. That doesn't mean you refrain from telling the truth or twisting it.
I would also like to add that I was quite impressed by some of the topics and how it was handled.
No offence meant to anyone. I hope you take it in the right spirit.
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Reply by : sunilajoseph@aol.com   View Profile   Since : 19 May 2006 6:30:43 AM Close
GPK,

I want to known why did you call me an arrogant and proud person? Transalate that words to malayalam. It is name calling. And why did you explain what i am doing, which i am not? That is a simple question. You don't need another thread for that. You can answer in one sentence.

etoile,
I am not a hypocrite. I don't love name calling neighbours. I tell them that they did wrong. And will give a gospel tract.

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 19 May 2006 7:19:00 AM Close
'sunilajoseph@aol.com,'

If you want me to answer your question, you should start a new thread. How many times this is to be told. If you like you may even call it, "Let Us Gang-Up On George P. Koshy." But you must start the new thread and stop hijacking threads.

Shalom malekim!!!

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Reply by : jay   View Profile   Since : 19 May 2006 11:19:08 AM Close
I'd like to remind us all of a verse that is often used to encourage us to dialogue with others about matters of faith, 1 Peter 3:15:

"But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have.

We (me included) seem to be pretty good at this part, but tend to forget that the verse concludes with:

"... But do this with gentleness and respect,"

Perhaps even if we succeed in defending our opinion on a certian doctrinal issue to the tee, we have completely missed the point if we have not done so in a spirit of gentleness and respect.

God Bless

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Reply by : sunilajoseph@aol.com   View Profile   Since : 19 May 2006 5:05:55 PM Close
GPK,

I know your feeling. If it was one of my supervisors or one of my co-workers with you, they will ask "GPK, how do you manage this all together? Are you taking any drugs to do it?".

GPK, you already answered my question partially. It is your head set. Don't you think that head set is weird. We have to change the setting. How can we? I had a plan in my mind when i was at work. But i forgot. I know any kind of groupism is not good.

I am not saying good-bye to you. You don't have to answer me. I understand. Sorry, i didn't plan to 'gang-up' on you.

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Reply by : bethel   View Profile   Since : 20 May 2006 1:42:52 AM Close
Going through the above discussion in this thread ,just want to make some observation. There are brethren in these forum to learn from viz.Moses,John Miller,Sambadhnoor etc in their approach of response to questions or issues raised by the seeker.The seeker is responded in a manner that he goes ahead with a healthy discussion and is helped with his doubts.Secondly I don’t think these brethren have been much subject to name calling and other personal attacks.So it is something to ponder and examine to those who are at the receiving end of such behaviour or even at the giving end whether their approach is provocative or downgrading others scriptural knowledge.I do believe in the term “disagreeing with grace.”which may help avoiding personal attacks and arguments keep the spirit of a healthy discussion forum.

Questioning the question of a seeker or responding to a question with counter question simply drives away or discourages a genuine seeker.So if his question is answered whichever way the contributor has understood then the seeker may ask more question if he is not convinced and so a healthy discussion goes on.I think a seeker(irrespective of whoever he is) need to be responded in a very simple and easily understandable manner which may help him,so lets all contribute to strengthen the faith of each other rather than contribute to establish our mastery and supremacy over theology and the knowledge of scripture.

In Christ’s Love
Jimmi

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Reply by : anubjohn   View Profile   Since : 21 May 2006 5:58:21 AM Close
Jimmi
I agree with most of what you wrote. But I would like to gracefully disagree with what you wrote about countering a question with another question. The reason why Iam writing is not just to state that you are wrong but to tell others not to be intimidated by questions. questions help you to think logically. it helps in straightening our twisted ideas. It also helps in exposing false notions that we have. Each one of us is prone to harbouring false ideas without realizeing that they are wrong. Many people are interested in establishing their view point not interested in learning. So asking good, intelligent questions can help us identify a true seeker.
This is proven to be a very effective method in teaching and counselling. MAny times our Lord used that method. When he was questioned about paying taxes he asked a question back, also when asked about the women caught in adultery.

However asking good questions which will lead a person to think is not as easy as said. Sometimes our questioning shows our arrogance and feeling of superiority than our meekness. So a great deal of thought has to be put in into the question.

I would like to encourage others not to offend and not to get offended so easily. Both are wrong and shows lack of humility. Learn to take things more gracefully. Initially it is difficult but it does become easy afterwards.

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Reply by : bethel   View Profile   Since : 21 May 2006 7:37:16 AM Close
anubjohn,

I agree with what u said in the above posting but believe me,not to get offended is too difficult whereas to offend is so easy.Anyways as you said lets try to avoid both.

Jimmi

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Reply by : johnmiller   View Profile   Since : 26 May 2006 7:58:43 AM Close
Dear Brethren,

I was very uneasy about the thread that appeared naming a brother and his family who had decided to leave a particular Christian fellowship for another denomination. Those responsible for this website acted wisely, in my judgement, by deleting this thread.

However, the brief discussion brought to mind a passage of scripture in John 6:66-8. First, let me make it very clear that I do not accuse any indviduals named in the thread to which I referred as having turned their backs on Christ. Indeed I cannot be accused of that since I neither know them nor their circumstances, nor the local fellowship concerned. My purpose in bringing this scripture before you is simply to show that by being occupied with the Lord Jesus and His "words of eternal life", we will not become discouraged by events in the local assembly, or indeed in our lives. Things that would discourage us naturally, therefore, must be the catalysts which throw us back on our attachment to the Lord.

I trust these thoughts will encourage.

Your brother in Christ,

John

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Reply by : johnmiller   View Profile   Since : 26 May 2006 8:01:48 AM Close
P.S. The passage of scripture I referred to in my last post was John 6:66-68

J.M.

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