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# 00087 :  Heaven
Dear Bro.
After the deth of a saint where will go the soul imediatly. where are the seven Heavens.
Post by : rajuanchal  View Profile    since : 11 Sep 2005

Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 12 Sep 2005 8:06:10 AM Close
Dear 'rajuanchal,'

You asked about "seven heavens." Please provide the scriptural reference for us to have a discussion.

Shalom malekim!!!

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Reply by : sambudhanoor   View Profile   Since : 13 Sep 2005 9:30:11 AM Close
Dear rajuanchal
As br.GPK asked if you can give some references of 7 heavens, it will be easy to discuss.
Heaven has different meanings.

The place of atmosphere, sky, moon, sun, stars, the abode of the God etc. are know as heaven

Gen 1:20 And God said, Let the waters swarm with swarmers having a living soul; and let birds fly over the earth on the face of the expanse of the heavens.

Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to divide between the day and the night. And let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years.

Psa 8:3 When I look at Your heavens, the work of Your fingers, the moon and the stars which You have established;

Isa 63:15 Look down from Heaven, and look down from the place of Your holiness and of Your glory; where is Your zeal and Your strength, the multitude of Your tender affections and of Your mercies toward me? Are they withheld?

Psa 68:33 To Him who rides on the heavens of heavens of old; lo, He sends out His voice, a mighty voice.


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Reply by : sambudhanoor   View Profile   Since : 13 Sep 2005 9:31:02 AM Close
Normally we speak of the Heaven is our eternal home (eternal glory).

Joh 3:13 And no one has ascended up to Heaven except He who came down from Heaven, the Son of Man who is in Heaven.

When a believer dies his soul/spirit will ascend to Heaven with our Lord.

2Co 5:8 then we are confident and we are pleased rather to go away from home out of the body, and to come home to the Lord.

Heaven is a place, where we are being in the presence of God.

Rev 21:2 -13 And I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of Heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her Husband. And I heard a great voice out of Heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God.

2Pe 3:10-13 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a rushing noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat. And the earth and the works in it will be burned up. Then, all these things being about to be dissolved, what sort ought you to be in holy behavior and godliness, looking for and rushing the coming of the Day of God, on account of which the heavens, being on fire, will melt away, and the elements will melt, burning with heat? But according to His promise, we look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

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Reply by : rajuanchal   View Profile   Since : 13 Sep 2005 4:17:13 PM Close
Dear bro.
I am working in Oman. One of my felow beliver has one doubt on our main subject that is after the deth, saint's soul where will go imediatly?
Lk.23:43 "And JESUS said unto him, Verly I say unto thee, to day shalt thou be with me in paradise." and in John 20:17 "JESUS saith unto her, touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my father;" this is JESUS said to Mary Magdalene. After the phisical deth of JESUS, His Soul has been rest in the Paradise that is one 'pathalam'. am I right? So the Heaven(Paradise) and hell(pathalam) are have some defrent stages. This is the point I want to discus.
with loving regards
Bro. in Christ Raju Anchal.
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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 14 Sep 2005 7:58:07 AM Close
Dear Raju,

On 11 Sep. 2005 you wrote, "After the deth of a saint where will go the soul imediatly. where are the seven Heavens."

Your posting on 13 Sep. 2005 explains the first part of your original posting, but not the second. I was asking about the second part. If you don't have a scriptural reference, then we can drop that portion from the discussion and continue this thread on the first part.

I will be away for a week, at least. I may join the discussion, if I feel that is needed, then.

Shalom malekim!!!

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